Talk:University Athletic Association of the Philippines

Athletics or Athetic?
The article says athletics, but the logo says athletic. Should the Article be renamed University Athletic Association of the Philippines?

Cno dyan pwede tumulong sa https://uaap.wikia.com/wiki/ para sa mga UAAP sports, pwede den details during game kaso kailangan ng mga mods para dito. Sino pwede mag volunteer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.47.105 (talk) 22:08, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Founding Members
FEU is a founding member. Here's why:

The Big 3 as it was called became a success and on April 6, 1932, its Article of Agreement was renewed. It was also during this time that these three universities seceded from the NCAA. The big 3 continued for the next six years until the Board of Directors of the UP Alumni Association suggested to then UP President Jorge C. Bocobo that a new inter university athletic be instituted. Having taken initiative, first with the NCAA and then with the Big 3, it was only natural that the UP again take the reins of leadership to organize a university athletic association. The representatives of the three universities together with the Far Eastern University, which was already dominating the sports scene of the period, met at the PAAF Office. They formally organized the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) on September 27, 1938. From: http://www.uaapgames.com/uaaphistory.shtml

From the paragraph I concluded:
 * NU, UP and UST seceded from the NCAA due to commercialization.
 * 1) ADMU, UP, DLSU and UST founded the Big Four league.
 * 2) The Big Three league was dissolved.
 * 3) The Big Three then referred to NU, UP and UST.
 * 4) FEU is not a part of the Big Three.
 * 5) The Big Three, together with FEU, founded the UAAP on September 27, 1938.

Circa 1900 12:57, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

My apologies...
Forgot Adamson University at the map. Will remedy it by the weekend. --Howard t he Du c k 14:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Adamson is there already. --Howard t he Du c k 16:11, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

History
the article should contain a detailed history of the league...how it started, etc....139.130.237.18 08:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Move to University Athletic Association of the Philippines
http://www.uaapgames.com/uaaphistory.shtml -> "The representatives of the three universities together with the Far Eastern University, which was already dominating the sports scene of the period, met at the PAAF Office. They formally organized the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) on September 27, 1938." -> only the header says "Athletics", but the rest of the articles (and even the logo on the site) refer to it as the University Athletic Association of the Philippines.

It was also brought up earlier that the UAAP logo itself said "Athletic" and not "Athletics". It may also help to know that "Athletics" usually refers to Track and Field events only. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.60.243.83 (talk) 11:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

Fair use rationale for Image:Uaap logo.gif
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Mass moving
I'm planning to move all championship lists (like UAAP Basketball Champions into UAAP Basketball Championship in a couple of days. If you approve, you can do so yourself. If you disapprove, state your objection here. -- Howard  the   Duck  09:16, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Since nobody objected, I'll do the move now. -- Howard  the   Duck  09:14, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Rivalries
Do not add non-UAAP events in the UAAP page, such as events between ADMU and DLSU in the NCAA unless for a little backgrounder. Any specific non-UAAP events shouldn't go here. And please, no POV edits. Make it neutral. -- Howard  the   Duck  06:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

About the 1991 men's basketball finals, it was game 3 that was replayed. I was present when the game 3 won by La Salle. It was the last points of Espinosa that won the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.179.235 (talk) 04:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Cite your source, because citing your own memory constitutes original research, which is unacceptable in Wikipedia. Phrase edits conforming to the NPOV standard. Rmcsamson (talk) 05:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

When do Taekwondo have a junior girls events?
We are waiting for the UAAP to have a Taekwondo Junior Girls Tournament. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.94.200.4 (talk) 01:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Reference to University of the Philippines
Although UP Diliman represents UP in the UAAP, we should denote all UP's in the articles pertaining to the UAAP as "University of the Philippines" for uniformity. WE do not refer to "De La Salle University" here as "De La Salle University - Manila" and "University of the East" as "University of the East - Manila." Except of course, we put a note after such reference to the first years of UP being represented by "UP Manila." Aeron Valderrama (talk) 13:30, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

UAAP logo
Hi. Thanks to Philtro for making an SVG version of the logo. Can we update it though? The logo changes every year, in that the circle on the top of the logo sports the colors of the current host in a rotating pattern (which means that the logo should have the DLSU circle on top this year, and the Ateneo circle on top next year). Thanks! Rmcsamson (talk) 05:00, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I recently updated the image. Please take note that the colors of Ateneo in the UAAP logo is light blue and white (between NU and La Salle). Hosting is actually arranged as indicated at the UAAP Basketball Championship article, NU → Ateneo → La Salle → ...
 * — P H I L T R O  ( talk ) 12:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I changed the colors. As per this (http://www.facebook.com/uaapseason73), Ateneo uses a darker blue compared to Adamson, so I guess this was just a question of placement. Besides, Ateneo's blue (ultramarine, which is close to the royal blue that they use) is closer to the color I'm using, and it does not use a shade that looks like sky blue. Adamson, on the other hand, does, at least based on their jerseys. But if this makes you uncomfortable, we can probably use a shade of blue that is closer to navy blue for Adamson. Rmcsamson (talk) 07:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I changed the logo again, this time basing the color of the Adamson circle on their Wikipedia article, which says "navy blue and white." Rmcsamson (talk) 07:12, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Philippine Christian University
I will revert the edits done as there has been no official word from the UAAP regarding changes in membership. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.92.128.30 (talk) 20:27, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of Battle of Katipunan
Why is the Ateneo-UP rivalry aka the Battle of Katipunan deleted from this article? Aeron Valderrama (talk) 18:47, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

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Brand Identity (to replace Seal section)
Can we get a consensus on which term to use for the section, as this will tackle both the old seal and the new UAAP logo as part of the organization's brand identity? Will "Brand Identity" be OK then? Thus, we also need help with expanding this section to discuss the logo rebrand rationale and the outcome of the logo design contest or rebranding process, including a brief description of the new logo. Aeron Valderrama (talk) 20:05, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Just call it a "Logo" section and be done with it. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * We need help expanding this section though. Aeron Valderrama (talk) 13:29, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Concerning the UAAP logo on this article
The current UAAP "sipa" logo which is appeared on this Wikipedia article actually turns out to be not a final and official logo of the league. The one in the article is only just a winning contest logo that will serve as a basis on its official logo. If you compare the winning contest logo and the official logo, they appeared to have very different colors. Here are some reliable sources where the official UAAP logo made its appearance:

From the February 25th press conference From another press conference on March 23rd Logo of the UAAP Varsity Channel Promotional video of the UAAP Season 84 Offical UAAP account

136.158.7.48 (talk) 07:18, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It is because the logo, much like its predecessor, ALSO changes with the change in the host school. The winning logo as presented and as used here is like a template for the "changing" logo. So, we keep this winning logo in the article as it is the basis of a "changing" official logo, much as we keep a "version" of the former seal here. Aeron Valderrama (talk) 13:23, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh I see. But can you provide where did you get that source? I am curious to know if what are you saying is true. 136.158.7.48 (talk) 14:19, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I always had the impression that the old UAAP logo was rotated; I dunno if the same principle applies to the new one, nor do I have sources for both logos rotation. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

College sports articles naming
We currently have UAAP and NCAA varsity team articles, and we have a handful of basketball, volleyball and football teams articles, all have varied naming conventions. It's time to unify the naming conventions. Here are my suggestions:
 * Varsity teams: Current name, " "; example: "UP Fighting Maroons"
 * Specific sport teams:
 * Men's teams: " "; example: "UST Growling Tigers basketball"
 * Women's teams: " "; example: "De La Salle Lady Spikers volleyball"
 * Exceptions: If men's and women's have the same names, disambiguate like this: " / "; example: Ateneo Blue Eagles men's basketball, Ateneo Blue Eagles women's volleyball, and so on. (All Ateneo teams are "Blue Eagles" irregardless of sport, gender or age group.)
 * Season articles:
 * General season article: " Season "; example: "NCAA Season 98"
 * Specific sport article: " Season tournaments/championships"; example: "UAAP Season 82 basketball tournaments"
 * Specific tournament article: " Season /  tournament/championship"; example: "NCAA Season 97 seniors' basketball tournament"
 * Season articles per team: "  team"; example: "2021 Letran Knights basketball team"

Changes:
 * Varsity teams: None
 * Specific sport teams:
 * Category:University Athletic Association of the Philippines football teams will all have to be renamed. "Ateneo Lady Blue Booters" becames "Ateneo Blue Eagles women's football", "DLSU Lady Booters" becomes "De La Salle Lady Booters football", etc.
 * Category:University Athletic Association of the Philippines basketball teams will all have to be renamed. "UST Growling Tigers men's basketball" becomes "UST Growling Tigers basketball", "FEU Tamaraws men's basketball" becomes "FEU Tamaraws basketball".
 * Category:National Collegiate Athletic Association (Philippines) basketball teams will all have to be renamed. "Letran Knights men's basketball" becomes "Letran Knights basketball".
 * Season articles:
 * Specific sport article:
 * Category:UAAP volleyball tournaments will have to rename six articles. "2005 UAAP Women's Volleyball" becomes "UAAP Season 68 women's volleyball tournament"
 * Season articles per team:
 * Category:Letran Knights men's basketball team seasons will all have to be renamed. "2021 Letran Knights men's basketball team" becomes "2021 Letran Knights basketball team", and so on.
 * Category:FEU Tamaraws men's basketball seasons will all have to be renamed. "2017 FEU Tamaraws men's basketball team" becomes "2017 FEU Tamaraws basketball team", and so on.
 * Category:UST Growling Tigers men's basketball team seasons will all have to be renamed. "2021 UST Growling Tigers men's basketball team" becomes "2021 UST Growling Tigers basketball team", and so on.

Basis: This naming convention is derived from WP:CBBALL and WP:CFB. Take note that most US college sports teams are mostly universally named regardless of gender, so the women's basketball teams of North Carolina are also the "North Carolina Tar Heels women's basketball" (not as the "North Carolina Lady Tar Heels" as you would probably expect). Most exceptions are if the men's team's nickname is specifically for use only by males. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:06, 25 August 2022 (UTC)


 * These are the currently pending WP:RMs:
 * Talk:DLSU Lady Booters - women's association football teams of the UAAP, including one juniors team:
 * DLSU Lady Booters (also standardizing to use "De La Salle" instead of "DLSU")
 * FEU Lady Tamaraw Booters
 * UST Lady Booters
 * UP Lady Booters
 * Zobel Lady Junior Archers (football)
 * Talk:UP Fighting Maroons Volleyball Team - UP Fighting Maroons Volleyball Team, the women's volleyball team of UP
 * Talk:FEU Tamaraws men's basketball - men's basketball teams. If moved, I intend to create men's basketball-specific articles for all 8 UAAP and 10 NCAA teams, and the PCU Dolphins.
 * FEU Tamaraws men's basketball
 * Letran Knights men's basketball
 * UST Growling Tigers men's basketball
 * Talk:Ateneo Lady Blue Booters - women's teams of Ateneo, who are now called the "Ateneo Blue Eagles" no matter the sport, gender or level.
 * Ateneo Lady Blue Booters
 * Ateneo Lady Eagles volleyball
 * Talk:La Salle Greenies - moving La Salle Greenies to "La Salle Green Hills Greenies"
 * Howard the Duck (talk) 19:09, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Updates:
 * Talk:DLSU Lady Booters - successfully moved
 * Talk:UP Fighting Maroons Volleyball Team - successfully moved
 * Talk:FEU Tamaraws men's basketball - successfully moved
 * Talk:Ateneo Lady Blue Booters - successfully moved
 * Talk:UST Golden Tigresses volleyball team - successfully moved
 * Talk:La Salle Greenies - successfully moved
 * Howard the Duck (talk) 15:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposed Expansion
Need cleaning up in this section for conciseness and compactness. Aeron Valderrama (talk) 10:05, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Zobel Junior Archers
Any ideas? Howard the Duck (talk) 00:27, 1 December 2023 (UTC)