Talk:University of Illinois System

Ancient discussion on where this should direct
I'm going to delete the redirects of the individual campus links. They deserve individual articles, like the UCs. --Jiang 22:25, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)

This article should be at University of Illinois System. University of Illinois should be about the school in Urbana-Champaign. john k 00:35, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The University of Illinois is a system. The Chicago campus information is bare.User:chriscarlos
 * If you feel strongly about this, then move it. I've minor misgivings about doing so and won't do it myself but won't act adversely if the move occurs.  Chief among my misgivings is that when I've mentioned "I went to the University of Illinois" its about 50:50 whether I'm asked if it was the Chicago campus or not.  Typically when I've wanted to be clear I use the semi-official "University of Illinois at Champaign/Urbana" versus "University of Illinois at Chicago" (the other campuses never seem to come up in conversation .. I'm not even sure what they are).  So my thinking is that this page should not be moved but that pages with the aforementioned names be created and material moved to them if, in fact, there is enough material to warrant a split at this time.  Of course, the more technically correct version would be to move this to "University of Illinois System" and leave "University of Illinois" as a redirect to that .. I think that would be the best of the solutions. Courtland 23:42, August 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * I would have to agree with Courtland's opinion. The University of Illinois is not just one campus, so having this page redirect to the Urbana-Champaign page would not be appropriate.  Thesquire 04:32, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I also agree with the opinion that it shouldn't be used. People here (UIUC) do talk about ourselves as "Illinois" and "The U of I", but "UIUC" is equally common, and if someone asked me what school I attended I would not answer "The University of Illinois", I would more likely say UIUC. Agriculture 06:20, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree that it should be moved. Three or four times, I've come across mentions of "university of Illinois" in articles, and it has always meant to refer to the Urbana campus but is redirected to the system article. The Chicago and Springfield campuses are not nearly as involved in research, etc. as Champaign is, and I have never seen a mention of either of those two campuses anywhere.  The article "University of Illinois" should refer to the Champaign campus.
 * * No campus-specific information should be here, IMHO. As for your assertions and justifications: You do realize that UIC includes the large majority of the U of I medical school, don't you?  Thus a claim of 'not nearly as involved in research' is false.  And while UIS is intended to be a liberal arts college (a la U of Minnesota - Morris), that doesn't mean it deserves to be forgotten or smothered under some inaccurate semantic blanket.  UIUC, UIC, and UIS -- with med college extensions at Peoria and Rockford and a nursing college extension at Quad Cities -- comprise a system.  Our purpose here is to stick to the facts as they are, not as we prefer them to be.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.149.54 (talk) 15:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no way that the medical school pumps out as much research as the Urbana campus. I am not stating how facts are how I prefer them to be, but how they are when I state that when I read "University of Illinois" in a mainstream news article, 90% of the time it is about the Urbana campus and not the system as a whole or any other school. That's what Wikipedia has to be based on, reliable sources.--Gloriamarie (talk) 08:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

So that's all?!? CERTAINLY NOT!!!
Is there not any controversy on campus? Do we not have issues with our mascot? Do we not make lots of engineers which help create weapons of mass destruction as well as ones that are researching hydrogen technology? I feel our 'knowledge' about the university which we present ourselves to the world is limited and must be improved! (Note the above comment is from 69.214.224.60)
 * User at IP:69.214.224.60, POV additions are not part of what Wikipedia is about, take your political diatribe elsewhere. Agriculture 20:26, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Cushing Vandal?
There has been a persistent vandal over the past few weeks that has twice now removed the Tim Cushing entry under Notable Alumni, and also blanked the entire Cushing page. I have no clue who Cushing is, but the fact that his individual entry was vandalized both times says these edits were abusive. Just something to keep an eye out for. eaolson 15:42, 10 August 2005 (UTC)


 * The Tim Cushing page appears to have been a hoax. Perhaps this is why it kept getting removed from the page. (This is why you should fill out the Edit Summary, people!).  The Cushing page has since been deleted. See Articles_for_deletion/Tim_Cushing.  I have no objection to this entire talk section being deleted. eaolson 03:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


 * There is also a persistant vandal, 68.77.29.155, who likes to blank large sections of text and replace it with all-caps lines like "OWNED" and references to bodily functions. Checking the page frequently to keep him from altering the page terribly much would not be out of line. Thesquire 13:07, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * As a note, this vandal has recently started posting under 68.77.159.55. Thesquire 18:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Also, there is a large section of text missing from the UIUC section of the article. Was this removed for a reason, or should it be considered yet another instance of vandalism and be restored? Thesquire 13:07, 19 August 2005 (UTC)


 * That segment got lost a few edits ago, when someone cleaned up after the vandal. It's back now.  eaolson 18:07, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

The Chief
I do not know many details on this, but as of now, the chief is gone. -Masterkilla
 * He's not gone, unfortunately. Please see the Chief Illiniwek article for more information.  Oh, and please sign your posts properly with four tildes ( ~ ). -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 23:10, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure he is, I read the article on the Daily Illini (U of I newspaper) a week or so ago. Thanks for the tip on signing my writings. The Grim Reaper 22:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * He's not, the BoT has done nothing in response to the NCAA's ban - what you were reading about in the Daily Illini was merely the effects of the ban on the Tennis team. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 22:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)


 * If he was not gone before, he is gone now. An unnamed university official has confirmed that Chief Illiniwek will be dropped after the end of this academic year. Chiwara 21:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Recent statements by the university say that they have not made any decisions yet - as noted in the Chief Illiniwek article. Until you can cite your sources, you can't back it up, so your claim won't go in the article.  -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 22:17, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't feel like changing it myself, but UIUC is NOT the birth place of the first LED. Nick Holonyak, Jr., currently a professor at UIUC, invented that in 1962 at General Electric. Also, it is most proper to note that he created the first *visible* LED; three people independently arrived at the LED at around the same time. While the others were slightly earlier than Holonyak's, they were all infra-red. Nick was my undergrad advisor, but I think a simple google search will confirm all of this.
 * Holonyak has been credited with inventing the LED-- check his own article for many sources for this: Nick Holonyak. While it's true that he wasn't at UIUC when he did it, he was there before (as a doctoral student of John Bardeen's and after, as a professor. It's understandable where the confusion stems from.--Gloriamarie 21:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:University of Illinois.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Endowment Picture
I have changed the endowment back to 2.18 Billion. The source that we have listed says the ACTIVE endowment figures represent 67% of the total, but then we are listing that active endowment figure as the TOTAL endowment. Feel free to revert back to an older version if I am wrong, but we have been listing the total endowment picture on this page in the past, so I think this change makes sense.

--Rob Shepard (talk) 04:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I meant to say we WERE listing the active endowment - which was only a very recent change. I have changed it back to the total endowment picture since I read the source we have listed which seems to indicate total endowment at $2.18 Bil

--Rob Shepard (talk) 04:51, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

In pop culture
If there's to be a section of UofI in pop culture, then the film The Core could be mentioned: the protagonist is a professor at the U of I.Kdammers (talk) 15:12, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The protagonist is a professor at the University of Chicago. Nice try, budddy. -- mcshadypl T C  21:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Where should University of Illinois redirect?
The hatnote on this article reads like this:
 * This article is about the public university system in Illinois, which comprises 3 campuses. Some references to the "University of Illinois," such as in NCAA college athletics, may be specifically referring to the system's founding campus. For that campus, see University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. For that school's athletic program, see Illinois Fighting Illini.

This is a tacit admission that when the vast majority of people type in "University of Illinois", that they are looking for UIUC, which for over 100 years was simply called "University of lllinois". The more sensible place for the hatnote is on the UIUC article, to assist that rare individual who is actually looking for the system article. HuskyHuskie (talk) 21:34, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

UIS "4th best"?
I've removed the following statement:
 * According to U.S. News and World Report, [UIS] is ranked as the 4th best public university in the Midwest.

because it's simply untrue; UIS isn't even the 4th best in the state, let alone the Midwest. Go to the rankings, understand how it's done, and it'll all become clear. HuskyHuskie (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Omissions
This article does not say anything about medical or dental education in Illinois anywhere besides Chicago, and especially not in Springfield. It does not say anything about medical and dental residency programs anywhere. All of that is part of the University of Illinois System. This article does not say anything about the University of Illinois and its relationships with other state universities and colleges that are in the same city or town, especially Chicago. Do they just ignore each other all the time? I am sure that you could find other omissions, because this is a short article on a HUGE university in a populous state. 98.67.96.230 (talk) 04:33, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

External links modified
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Requested move 22 April 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move  (t · c)  buidhe  18:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

University of Illinois system → University of Illinois System – Capitalize "system" in line with the university's style guide that says if not used independently, "system" should be capitalized. This follows traditional style rules, including WP:CAPITALIZATION which asks to capitalize all proper nouns. The University of Illinois System is a brand, and therefore a proper noun. JustinMal1 (talk) 03:51, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose – Sources haven't adopted this branding yet. We should wait.  Dicklyon (talk) 04:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Adding two University of Illinois System entities
Hello. I corresponded with @Dianna and @ELKevbo in October, and now propose changes I hope will meet requirements. The University of Illinois System launched two entities since the page was last updated. I hope you will add them below the Discovery Partners Institute. The content is derived from U of I System webpages/websites, with uillinois.edu part of each URL. Please let me know if you need additional information.

Illinois Innovation Network

I-MMÁS: Mexican & Mexican-American Students Initiative

Laura Mabry (talk) 16:55, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, we can't add those edits, because both of the proposed paragraphs are copied from the school's website (here and here). That's a violation of our copyright policy. In the future, to attract the attention of editors who work on coi edits, please include the template at the top of your edit request. — Diannaa (talk) 22:33, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Brief fall 2022 enrollment and fiscal data updates
Please update citation 4 link to most current information at https://news.uillinois.edu/view/7815/1344796427 Please update citation 6 link to the 2022 annual report at https://uillinois.foleon.com/annualreport/2022/ In the Springfield section, please change “nearly” to “approximately” for enrollment https://www.uis.edu/admission-aid (FYI: 2022 enrollment is 4,198 -- https://uillinois.foleon.com/pocket-facts/2023/university-of-illinois-springfield)

In the Springfield section, please replace this with copy below*: UIS offers 56 bachelor's degrees, 39 minors, 44 master's degrees, one doctorate, 37 graduate certificates and coursework that leads to six Illinois State Board of Education endorsements more than 50 degree-granting programs.
 * Replaces copy above: UIS recently announced the formation of a new College of Health, Science and Technology, as well as new schools of Communication and Media; Education; Public Management and Policy; Politics and International Affairs; Health Sciences; and Integrated Sciences, Sustainability and Public Health. Citation: https://uillinois.foleon.com/annualreport/2022/

Laura Mabry (talk) 20:25, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Laura Mabry (talk) 16:15, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Citation 4 and the Springfield information was updated. However, the listing of degrees was not included as a reference to this information was not provided. Furthermore, this seems to be a direct copy and paste from the website, which would be a copyright violation. Additionally, the Annual Report link goes to a general page with multiple subpages and I wasn't able to find the specific information reported. Are there any neutral third-party sources (e.g. local or regional news sources) that could be used to reference this information?  Spencer T• C 19:15, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Adding Illinois Innovation Network paragraph
Please use the following content to create a similar entry under the Discovery Partners Institute entry. Thank you very much.

Illinois Innovation Network Illinois Innovation Network connects communities and industry with the strengths and resources of the state’s public universities. Led by the University of Illinois System, the IIN has 15 hubs that conduct research and drive innovation and economic growth statewide.

Laura Mabry (talk) 14:37, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Reliable sources do not only serve to verify content, they also support notability. Since the source you gave is a primary source, neither verifiability nor notability are adequately supported. Actualcpscm (talk) 17:29, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Like this? https://www.illinois.gov/news/press-release.22369.html 2601:240:8301:12A0:5C52:FE06:8A93:FDFC (talk) 17:19, 20 March 2023 (UTC)