Talk:Untitled Goose Game

The game is officially untitled.
The developers have consistently stated that the game is officially untitled, as in it literally has no title. I suggest that the article be changed to resemble something like this:

untitled, but colloquially known as Untitled Goose Game, is an untitled goose-based third person stealth puzzle game developed by House House.

With https://twitter.com/house_house_/status/1172156661127176193 as a reference.

--sheeldz (talk) 08:26, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I propose consistency with other untitled-work pages but still containing an opening sentence that meets the (name, developer, publisher) standard of every other video game article:
 * The untitled second video game developed by House House, commonly known as Untitled Goose Game, is a stealth puzzle game published by Panic. Players control a goose who bothers the inhabitants of an English village. The game was released on September 20, 2019 for Windows, macOS, and Nintendo Switch.
 * As reference examples for treatment of untitled works with common names, I suggest looking to Led Zeppelin IV, Untitled Korn album, Untitled Martin Scorsese project, Untitled (Blink-182 album), which mostly (and sometimes, only) refer to "the album", "the film" in the article body, except to explain the common name. It would not be wrong to only refer primarily to "the game" within the body of this article.  Contrast with the distinct case of creative works that have the title "Untitled" e.g. Untitled (Rothko) which are then referred to as Untitled within their articles.
 * Inopinatus (talk) 01:12, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No, this is Wikipedia, we go by common names. And further it's not like there's no name on the game's catalog pages or loading screen, compared to, say, the Korn album. There is a title here, which has an odd history but its the title nevertheless. --M asem (t) 01:37, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not debating the article title though. The title is correct, because as you say, for titles we go by common names.  I'm proposing changes to the lead and the body of the article. Inopinatus (talk) 22:17, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I like how you phrased it, so I'm up for that. I think we can still keep calling it "Untitled Goose Game" in the rest of the article as long as we explain somewhere that people refer to it as "Untitled Goose Game". I feel like that would be more pleasant to read then replacing it by "the game" everywhere. Stefvanschie (talk) 09:29, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

I fully agree with initially calling it “the untitled second game by developer House House”, but then referring to in throughout the rest of the article as “Untitled Goose Game”. It makes the most sense, because it is Untitled SirPlerple (talk) 21:59, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

To point out the two IGN articles that are being used to claim there is no title for the game clearly has the game named "Untitled Goose Game", from a quote from the dev: "The only title we ever even remotely considered was ‘Some Like it Honk,’ because we thought it was funny, but I don’t think [we] ever seriously considered using it. Untitled Goose Game just has such a nice ring to it.". The second link is an IGN review, so not an official statement, and even then, they clearly are calling the game "Untitled Goose Game". Yes, they're stating the game is untitled, but they're clearly refering to it as "Untitled Goose Game" and House House clearly does too, outside of one Tweet, which is not sufficient to override RS sourcing. --M asem (t) 14:28, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * We mention that the game is untitled, yet for the remainder of the article we refer to it as Untitled Goose Game, that way we both mention that the game is untitled, yet continue to refer to it like every other RS does. But while we're at it, we might as well compile a list of sources that state it as the game's title and sources that explicitly state it is untitled.

These were reliable sources I could find that specifically stated titled/untitled. There were some edge cases here and there, which I haven't included (e.g. a source stating "untitled goose game" in lowercase, are they referring to the common name of the game or are they saying that it is untitled?). I don't see why the review one shouldn't count though. Sure, it's not an official statement, but it's still a post from a reliable source - even if it's in a review. The information we extract from a post should not necessarily have to be the main topic of the post. I still stand by my opinion that we should mention in the lead that it is untitled and refer to it everywhere else as "Untitled Goose Game". While the amount of sources I found isn't as much as I hoped (I've gone through most of the reliable sources on WP:VG/S with exception of non-English sources because of possible incorrect translations), there are definitely reliable sources that state it as untitled, so I see no reason to not, at the very least, state this once on the actual page. Stefvanschie (talk) 19:27, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ArsTechnica: Titled
 * GameRevolution: Untitled
 * IGN: Mixed
 * Rock, Paper, Shotgun: Mixed
 * VG247: Untitled
 * There is no reason to have this highly bloated opening phrase stating that the game is unofficially untitled. If it's really that notable, then simply add an EFN template explaining it; it should not be in prose (at least in the lead/opening sentence). ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:37, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Spoilers?
So, what do you do about spoilers? Revealing the final twist in the tale of this game is about the worst spoiler I’ve ever seen, but it seemed a bit harsh to the author just to delete it all. I played and loved this game, but finding out how it ends was especially memorable.
 * -) Oliver Low (talk) 21:05, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * WP does not hide spoilers for released games, see WP:SPOILER. --M asem (t) 21:11, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Gameplay doesn't have to reveal every single aspect of the game. Since that does ruin the surprise at the end, and no reason to include it, no sense to have it.  I'd like more opinions please.   D r e a m Focus  18:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * "Ruin the surprise" should never be an argument for removal. If people really are trying to avoid spoilers for something, they shouldn't really be reading wiki articles about it. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:08, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Wanting to read about the gameplay of a game doesn't mean you want to have the surprise cute ending ruined. This isn't like reading the plot section of a book or game or show where you know its going to tell you everything, so you need to stop reading it if you don't want to know.  This is something you read to find out what type of game it is, and don't expect that to be in there.  Games usually have the Plot section separate from the Gameplay section.   D r e a m Focus  15:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Usually yes, but when there's no effective plot (as with this game) we keep them merged rather than have a tiny tiny plot section (eg we don't separate the plot of Pac-Man from its gameplay).
 * To this point there are two factors though is that from one side, how much this "really" ruins the game, but the other is how many RSes have actually gone and noted it? I don't recall many sources actually discussing this point so its actually fair game to say its not needed to appreciate the work overall (compared with, say, the ending of the BioShock which has been the subject of detailed discussion). --M asem (t) 15:21, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

GAN
I've nominated this for Good Article, it's and iconic game and well written. -MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 20:13, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

FAC
Hey everyone, I've nominated this at FAC. I've taken @Alexandra IDV's contributions into consideration, and got approval for the nomination from her talk page. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:05, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

viral
It's strange that this article doesn't mention that Untitled Goose Game was popular because became viral on social media. — V ORTEX  3427 (Talk!) 09:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you find reliable sources that specifically go into detail about its virality? soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:05, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * From a quick search, Vox has a paragraph on it and it has been called a "viral sensation" by other articles (but they don't go into detail). I don't believe it should be discussed extensively but right now the article only mentions the trailer going viral. There should be a sentence about the actual game going viral as well, making it popular. — V ORTEX  3427 (Talk!) 14:44, 27 May 2023 (UTC)