Talk:Up in the Air (novel)

Plagiarism from New York Times review
The plot summary of this novel is plagiarized nearly wholesale from the New York Times review cited at bottom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.203.87.168 (talk) 04:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Book versus film
Please remember that this article is about the book, Up in the Air, not Up in the Air (film). According to interviews with Walter Kirn and Jason Reitman, there are significant differences between the book and the film. One of these differences is that the millage goal in the book is one million miles whereas in the film it is ten million miles. Likewise, the character Alex Goran in the film is a composite of a number of women in the book and the character Natalie Keener is not in the book at all. The wedding is also not in the book. --Dan Dassow (talk) 17:41, 4 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Would someone who has read the book, please review the article to verify the plot is correct. Various editors have confused the book with the film and try to add details from the film that are not in the book. --Dan Dassow (talk) 18:39, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Quality scale

 * I believe that this article has sufficient information to no longer be considered Stub-class and should be rated as Start-class or better. Would someone from WikiProject_Novels please review this article to determine its correct rating? Note: the article now has cover art from the first edition. --Dan Dassow (talk) 18:39, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi there. The helpme template is used to attract general help from all-around helpers. If you need someone from WikiProject Novels to check the article, your best bet is to leave them a message on their talk page. Thanks. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 18:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Potential citatations
--Dan Dassow (talk) 05:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Talks about themes of book and film.
 * Kirn explains: "It's stranger than it even might seem at first," he said on the phone while visiting Los Angeles. "I named the character Ryan Bingham because Bingham is a last name common among Mormons, and I grew up a Mormon, and it was the last name of my first girlfriend. I gave him what is a typically Western name, and the novel was staged out of Denver airport.
 * Kirn explains: "It's stranger than it even might seem at first," he said on the phone while visiting Los Angeles. "I named the character Ryan Bingham because Bingham is a last name common among Mormons, and I grew up a Mormon, and it was the last name of my first girlfriend. I gave him what is a typically Western name, and the novel was staged out of Denver airport.
 * Kirn explains: "It's stranger than it even might seem at first," he said on the phone while visiting Los Angeles. "I named the character Ryan Bingham because Bingham is a last name common among Mormons, and I grew up a Mormon, and it was the last name of my first girlfriend. I gave him what is a typically Western name, and the novel was staged out of Denver airport.

Naming conventions for novels
What is the preferred naming convention for a novel that exists prior to a film adapted from that novel? Specifically, an editor decided to move article about Walter Kirn's novel Up in the Air from Up in the Air to Up in the Air (book) with the thought of moving Up in the Air (film) to Up in the Air. Wouldn't Up in the Air (novel) be preferrable to Up in the Air (book) when there is ambiguity? --Dan Dassow (talk) 19:03, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Origin of the Novel's Name
The article stated that the novel's name came from a line in F. Scott Fitzgerald's last (unfinished) novel. However, Mr Kirn stated in an interview with a writer for The Daily Beast:

"UP IN THE AIR, I’d titled the book, both for its setting (airplanes, airports, airport hotels) and for the plight of its hero, Ryan Bingham, a rootless, restless management consultant who specializes in firing corporate workers whose bosses aren’t able to do the deed themselves, and who soothes his bad conscience by hoarding frequent-flier miles and their many perks." (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/12/09/george-clooney-saved-my-novel.html) If Mr Kirn has made other, citationable statements about the title's provenance, that could be re-added to the article. --Spray787 (talk) 20:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

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