Talk:Urban beekeeping

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Proposal to remove biased content from Montreal section
Much of the content under Montreal seems biased towards mentioning the activities of one businesses. With supporting references linking to articles glorifying that specific business. It does not seem appropriate to have only such a skewed representation of the beekeeping activities of that city. Nor does it seem very useful to readers to have multiple paragraphs dedicated to listing particular locations managed by this one business.

What might be more useful and relevant to broadening the understanding of urban beekeeping, is to acknowledge the controversy surrounding the hive density this business has encouraged in Montreal. As urban beekeeping has grown, there is concern of over population. The are differing view points regarding the seriousness of this problem, and ways of approaching this problem remain a source of ongoing debate in Montreal. .

157.52.7.104 (talk) 20:15, 16 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, I don´t agree with the proposed changes, it removes the three sources of the section, and by eliminating content about other initiatives (on your previous edits you removed more than one) you are biasing the section towards Miel Montreal (cited in the blog you added in your comment). The hive density controversy you mention could be relevant for the article. if it can be sourced from independent and reliable sources you can improve the section by adding that information into it (including the reference). Regards.--Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 11:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Feedback on Article
Overall I like the structure of adding information about what urban beekeeping looks like in different cities around the world. I know the amount of information you can add to this article might be limited because there are other wikipedia articles looking about honeybees, beekeeping, diseases etc. However, I'm an urban beekeeper and I feel that there is a lot of information that could be be added. I'd like to make two suggestions.

1. There could be more background information on what it's like to be an urban beekeeper as far honey, pollen, propolis, wax and royal jelly production and what that looks like with getting permits and selling or trading. Also there are two sentences mentioning that transmission of diseases can spread as well as one on swarming but these topics aren't addressed in depth. There could be an entire sections on these three topics.

2. Something else that could be added are different viewpoints. For the most part I feel like this article is in support of urban beekeeping, which is fine. But it isn't showing the negative aspects like one of the main one being swarming and more importantly that people around the area could be allergic to bee strings. I also see some of the partial bias in the Montreal sections that could be remedied by adding different viewpoints if there are available sources.

I hope you find this information helpful. I look forward to a response. P.S. I might in the future add a sections looking at cities in Ca that I have experience in and can find sources for. -- PeacefulPassion (talk) 00:13, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I personally support both suggestions. If you can find the reliable sources needed to show its relevance and to reference your proposed additions, I think the article could be improved by your edits. Regards. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 08:57, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Detroit section issues
Most of it was written by one of the principals of the organization mentioned, and no sources are cited.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Urban_beekeeping&type=revision&diff=823036170&oldid=823021272

I'm going to raze and simplify it, but add a link to an article on beekeeping in Detroit. Huw Powell (talk) 01:31, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

University Project
Hello, I am a college student in an editing course. I will be making some substantial changes to this article. If you would like to see the changes I am planning, you can visit my sandbox. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or issues. Thanks! PTRoy99 (talk) 17:37, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

General critique
Dear fellow Wikipedians,

for a University-project I‘d like to give some feedback on this article. In general, I can already say that the article is truly not as informative as one might hope for when entering such a page. The article gives a lot of examples on where this practice of urban beekeeping is practiced, but not on important key characteristics such as why and how.

1.	The Introduction does not provide substantial information about the topic itself. It should work more as a summary of the core principles of this practice. Instead, it already gives an immediate opinion (questionable on its own!) on why this is a good practice, before even talking about what it truly is. Furthermore, the quote is not essential to the existence of this practice, but gives out one perspective on the reasoning, which in this case is completely detached from other explanations.

2.	There is also no proper reasoning or explanation on the possible motives, benefits, or dangers of urban beekeeping. The criticism presented does seem valid, however I strongly doubt it is the only one. The article itself even says “one problem […]” but doesn’t go on with other ideas. It’s also unclear how the second part of this argument correlates to the other part, as it doesn’t draw a straight connection between swarming and such diseases. There are no reasons presented on why it could possibly be used or how it might benefit the city, its inhabitants or the bees themselves. There is only on try of presenting such a motive in the end of the introduction, which is very vague and not backed by any sources: which benefits exactly are there and how do they improve the cities?

3.	Overall, I don’t really like or understand the focus on so many individual cities. The article does not present a lot of details about the functioning of these beekeeping activities, but nevertheless gives a lot of examples. Why exactly these cities? Shouldn’t instead a few chosen examples represent specific aspects or extraordinary variants of this practice? The way it is now, it seems like these were just the cities with sources on them. The introductory sentence of this part says it all itself, that some cities have them, some don’t, which unfortunately is very informal and does not present any information.

Best, Ltesche (talk) 02:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)