Talk:Urban folk

Definition?
This article stipulates Urban Folk is closely related to Anti-Folk. Please, someone familiar with the sub-genres, kindly discuss to compare and contrast the two. How/Why are they different? Thank you. 66.17.105.226 23:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the two terms emerged at essentially the same time (mid-1980s), but in different places. Today the two terms may be essentially synonymous.  I would credit Billy Bragg with creating "urbane folk" in the U.K. at essentially the same time as other artists created NYC "anti-folk" on the lower-east-side of Manhattan.  Many NYC anti-folk artists (e.g. Cindy Lee Berryhill, Paleface) toured as opening acts for Bragg back then.
 * Urban folk may, however, be a more inclusive term than anti-folk judging from the list of artists on this page. Many of these people make a brand of music that is more tame (i.e. less punk-influenced) than what I would consider anti-folk.  I'd like to find some sources to help parse this out. -MrFizyx 21:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Urban folk dab or die?
I've made the article a dab page for now. I think this may be a good option since I've seen the term used to describe a wide range of things. Woody Guthrie's music, any acoustic-based music dealing with themes of city life, or as a synonym for NYC anti-folk from the 80s/90s. I've also posted a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Roots music to see if anyone there wants to do something with the page or if we should just remove it from the Folk music template (the souce of many links to this page). -MrFizyx (talk) 14:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)