Talk:Urduja

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Can someone PLEASE add a picture of Urduja? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.72.253 (talk) 22:38, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Tennasserim as another possible candidate for "Tawalisi"?
While the two place names may not look similar in English spelling, in Thai, Tenasserim is pronounced more like "Da-now-si", so perhaps it's that? Also in "A History of Ayutthaya: Siam in the Early Modern World", the city-state of Ayutthaya, prior to it's formal date of foundation in 1351 CE, was more similar to its Maritime Southeast Asian neighbors, who were raiding down the Malay Peninsula at this time, whose customs were described by Fei Shin, a scribe on Zheng He's voyages in the early 15th century,"The customs are violent and fierce: they particularly respect bravery. They invade and despoil neighboring regions … and are practiced and skillful at fighting on water." (Baker, Phongpaichit, 49) I don't believe, however, that Ayutthaya did subjugate the region until the 16th century.

Women also played an integral part in Ayutthaya society, often becoming the leaders of commoner households and heads of society while the men were off being conscripted to fight in wars or perform corvee labor for the king/state, so that kind of negates the idea that women can't be in charge on the mainland, even less so on the Malay peninsula.

Tennasserim was also named on the De Fauro map in c. 1459, one of the earliest maps that payed attention to detail to Mainland Southeast Asia Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 00:11, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Urduja
Urduja was a legendary warrior princess recorded in the travel accounts of Ibn Battuta (1304 – possibly 1368 or 1377 AD). She was described to be a princess of Kaylukari in the land of Tawalisi. Though the locations of Kaylukari and Tawalisi are disputed, in the Philippines Urduja is widely believed to be from Pangasinan, and has since been regarded as a national heroine.

Ibn Battuta 110.93.82.253 (talk) 01:48, 16 August 2022 (UTC)