Talk:Urim and Thummim (Latter Day Saints)

Kudos
Kudos for creating this article. The Seer Stone (LDS) article has lots of good information and a subsection about the U&T (LDS), but no matter how it is word-smithed there, it's definition gets lost in the muddle of the seer stones in general. Having its own article should alleviate this problem. I would like to add an illustration of what the U&T (LDS) may have looked like.Rockford1963 23:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Bible Dictionary reference
It seems to me that the link to the LDS Bible Dictionary should be changed from an explicit link to a reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by B Fizz (talk • contribs) 06:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC) KAFIR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.160.110.191 (talk) 14:12, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 21:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Deliberate obfuscation?
Do you think its worth adding information about when and why the church started obfuscating the difference between the seer stones, U&T? Dan Vogel did a decent about of research into this very topic in his book "Indian Origins and the Book of Mormon". Skuld-Chan (talk) 16:07, 29 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Done Epachamo (talk) 04:54, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Merge?
Shouldn't this article be merged with the main Urim and Thummim? Smith's holy decoder goggles are mythologically descended from the Hebrew breastplate anyway. The more I look into this, the more this page seems redundant, especially with the Seer Stones article on the other side of things.

I'm not learned enough in Wikipedia to officially propose the merger myself, but I strongly feel the LDS version can be explained fully as a sub-category both in Urim and Thummim and Seer stone (Latter Day Saints), without noticeably increasing either article's size. "Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there does not need to be a separate entry for every concept," and this page seems to fit 3/4 of the criteria listed on the Wikipedia:Merging page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mousenight (talk • contribs) 20:52, 16 October 2019 (UTC)


 * No, they should definitely be separate articles. Without a doubt. This article needs a lot of work, but is truly notable enough to be a separate concept and article.  Epachamo (talk) 10:54, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Maintenance Tag Removal
I have made a significant number of changes and additions to the article and would like to remove the maintenance tag. I seek the consensus of the collective. Epachamo (talk) 04:53, 5 January 2020 (UTC)