Talk:Usage share of instant messaging clients

With Gmail having about 160 million active users, and Facebook now releasing their chat client over XMPP (their user base is about 400 million users), I think it's safe to say that the number of Jabber/XMPP users is greatly underestimated here. I would venture to say that there are more than 100 million users using Jabber. Probably double that, actually. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.200.153  (talk • contribs)  13:50, 12 February 2010
 * I went ahead and updated it. No reason to let it just sit if we have the data to back it up. 24.10.200.153 (talk) 14:12, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Windows Live also just release their chat services over XMPP, so their userbase should be added as well. HuGo_87 (talk) 06:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC) It should be noted that this is client usage share while XMPP is a protocol supported by clients. To be accurate, XMPP should be removed as a "Client" and XMPP protocol support should be noted among clients - with perhaps a footnote of the userbase of XMPP supporting clients combined as compared to other interoperable IM clients and protocols (for example ICQ/AOL/iChat and Yahoo/Live Messenger/Facebook). Usage share of IM protocols is a separate topic. Marknoble (talk) 18:37, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Networks vs. Services vs. Clients
This article is about user shares of im NETWORKS, not CLIENTS! It is important that clients, services and networks are not the same: -- 62.156.43.59 (talk) 10:44, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * A client is the piece of software that the user is using. Examples for IM clients are: Pidgin, ICQ (official client), MSN (official client), mIRC, Miranda, Adium, Trillian
 * A network is a walled-garden service or a group of services that have federation. Examples: Jabber, QuakeNet, EFNet, OnlineGamesNet, AIM+ICQ, Yahoo+MSN, Gadu-Gadu
 * A service is ... well, that should be clear, although I can't think of a definition now. Examples: GMX, Web.de, Jabber.org, QuakeNet, EFNet, OnlineGamesNet, AIM, ICQ, GoogleTalk, Yahoo, MSN, Gadu-Gadu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_messaging#User_base
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_messaging#User_base ??? comments... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.10.229.1 (talk) 17:45, 12 April 2012 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Instant_messaging#User_Base_-_change_to_table.3F — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.10.229.1 (talk) 17:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

REDIRECT
I am accepting the proposal above to move this table to the Instant messaging article and put a redirect on this page to this table. This article is very out of date, has lots of un-sourced data and I believe the nature of keeping up statistics on the usage share of IM clients is nearly impossible. These statistics are almost universally produced only by the IM software vendors themselves and it is nearly impossible to fact check them. Half of the data currently is from 2009 or earlier. And because IM clients popularity ebb and flows so quickly, anything that is older than a few years is nearly useless. Nasa-verve (talk) 16:55, 22 January 2015 (UTC)