Talk:Use of social network websites in investigations

Other options section
It has plenty of sources from what im seeing.

The other options section seems a bit more like a HOW-TO guide than an encyclopedia.

Country specific
"Facebook, (formerly known as thefacebook), an online facebook and social networking service, is increasingly being used by school administrations and law enforcement agencies as a source of evidence against student users."

The article only quotes examples in America. As a student at an English university I have never heard of anything like this happening here. If this is an America phenomenon perhaps that should be stated.


 * This might be because Facebook is (to my knowledge) more widespread in the US. As such, the geographical penetration of Facebook should be covered in Facebook, not in this article. rdude 19:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't see potential for missunderstanding there. Maybe a sentance in the begining saying that these events haven't occured in other countries would be approprate if you have definite information on that (I couldn't say for sure myself).  Otherwise, since the article is nothing but American cases I don't think anyone would mistake it for something other than an American problem. theanphibian 02:59, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

There is no freedom of speech and privacy in America. --GoOdCoNtEnT 07:42, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, there is such thing as free speech in the US. The exceptions to the rule are the cases of inciting panic (FIRE! in a crowded theater) or violent action (starting a fight). Privacy is not explicitly stated as a right, but the courts have upheld limited privacy - no, police cannot use FLIR to look inside your house. However, free speech and especially privacy are not assumed when you're a student at a school. You are under the rules of your school, that school's system (such as the UT system in Texas - you're under the Regents' Rules) and special education-related state codes.
 * Actually we are currently claiming that the largest network on Facebook is the London, UK one. I think we need to find non-US cases, and if there aren't any report that fact. (Of course drinking is allowed on UK campuses, as it's an under 18 not under 21 thing and many of these crimes seem to be campus related)90.192.184.137 00:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

In Croatia, policemen came and searched the house of a man who allegedly put a picture and/or created a facebook group opposing the current prime minister. The man is a member of the opposing party. 19:34, 29 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.139.77.143 (talk)

RACISM AT THE NORTH-WEST UNIVERSITY, SOUTH AFRICA
I think this should be added

Racist Facebook group student expelled Staff Writer Sapa | 24 November, 2008

A student linked to a racist Facebook group has been expelled from North West University (NWU)

A student linked to a racist Facebook group has been expelled from North West University (NWU), a spokesperson said on Monday.

Louis Jacobs said a disciplinary hearing found the student guilty of impairing the university's good name.

"The committee made a ruling that the student be expelled from the university, after which his legal representative lodged an appeal."

Seven students at the North West University faced disciplinary action over the racist group "ek laaik nie 'n houtkop nie, sou what", which surfaced on the Facebook social network website recently.

The group's members had posted racially abusive words and comments on the site. It also featured a photograph of a white man holding a gun while posing over the trophy of a young black boy lying on the ground.

Jacobs said the students, who were all registered at the Potchefstroom campus, were charged because their conduct was detrimental or could have been detrimental to the good name, order, discipline or performance of the university.

Six of them were found not guilty. Jacobs said the disciplinary committee could find no evidence which indicated that they actively associated themselves with the group.

Referring to the expulsion of the one student, Jacobs said the university had certain rights regarding its expectations of student conduct.

"The disciplinary committee has found that the conduct of this student was a transgression of these rights and that his actions were detrimental, or had the potential of being detrimental to the good name of the university," he said.

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2405437,00.html

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Internet/6127.html

http://www.mg.co.za/organisation/north-west-university —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.30.109.245 (talk) 20:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Other Investigations
"At Depauw University in Greencastle, Indiana, evidence was gathered against students involved in the "Glambi Affair" using their facebook photos." This is a rather useless statement. If you want to provide some more information about it, feel free to repost it.

Wierd use of faculty and police resource's
What a waste of faculty and law enforcement resources, persuing people for having open containers in halls! Here in the UK, the universities run bars on campus, the students union run bars on campus, people's rooms are considered their own private spaces and no one minds if you have beers in the communal fridges or stashes for parties in your rooms. America needs to grow up, when it comes to alcohol, its like a nation of children being governed by some 18th century school mistress. I heard american colleges and universities dont even have mixed accomodation? they segregate them by sex.. lol, like WTF? Also here in the UK, we have a policy where university campus is private property, the police have to be INVITED on, and that is only done if a serious crime like a robbery, rape, or a burglary has taken place. The police dont wander about looking for people drinking. Sure our age of consent is differant but who cares, theres bound to be people of legal age in the US residing in university accomodation + people can do what they want in their own accomodation, its not a public place. Its about time the US people started fighting for their constitutional rights not to have their private lives interfered with by the state.


 * Perhaps. But then, this is Wikipedia, not Wikidebate, so what's your point?  --Badger151 02:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

What Ms. Anne Onimous (anonymous) said, I totally agree with. and think about it, if you were a judge, and evidence was presented to you, obtained from a WEBSITE, and that evidence is the writings of a TEENAGER? by what stretch of the imagination would that ever be admissable? waste of time for something ANY lawyer could easily refute.

This isn't Wikinews
Much of the article sounds like a news article. Maestro tomas 23:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, but I think that this article should be merged unless it is treated as a current event. -- .ιΙ I n hu man 14 Ιι. ( talk 20:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Students against Stewart?


Who's Stewart? And what's he got to do with this article? --Badger151 02:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I remember reading this on the Facebook page or this page at some point. Stewart was a police officer who had a reputation at a high school (I think) and then it's the typical story of someone makes a group for it, some kid gets expelled or whatnot.  I don't remember the details and searching comes up almost completely devoid of results. theanphibian 04:19, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Probably fiction!
I was reading this article, and I ask you to draw you attention to the second bullet under "Other Investigations"? That is just ridiculous. The link seems to be dead too. --JDitto 02:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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