Talk:Utah Beach/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Jonas Vinther (talk · contribs) 21:19, 16 October 2014 (UTC)


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The article is perfectly written with no sentence or grammar errors, but here is a list of suggestions for improvements.
 * 1. "at the Trident Conference in Washington in May 1943" - How about changing this sentence to "at the Trident Conference, hosted by Churchill and Roosevelt, in Washington in May 1943".
 * "Hosted" is the wrong word; these two men headed their respective delegations. It's probably too much detail for this article. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 2. "The Allies initially planned to launch the invasion on May 1, 1944. A draft of the plan was accepted at the Quebec Conference in August 1943" - No way to connect these two sentences? How about "The Allies initially planned to launch the invasion on May 1, 1944 and a draft of the plan was accepted at the Quebec Conference in August 1943".
 * 3. "General Dwight D. Eisenhower was appointed commander of Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force (SHAEF)" - How about this wording "General Dwight D. Eisenhower was appointed Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces". It streamlines the prose, but that was not his title. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 4. "Its current commander, Major General Roscoe Woodruff, was replaced with Major General J. Lawton Collins" - It might just be me, but I was confused at the "its current commander" wording. How about removing "current" or reformulating it to "the commander".
 * 5. "A report by Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, Oberbefehlshaber West (Supreme Commander West; OB West), overall commander on the Western Front" - How about simply writing "A report by Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, overall commander on the Western Front"
 * 6. "which stretched from the Netherlands to Cherbourg" - Are we talking about the Atlantic Wall or just the most likely landing sights? My understanding is that the Atlantic Wall stretched some 2000 miles from coast of Denmark to the Spanish border. You are correct. Ford-Zaloga (p.54) says Rommel was responsible for improvements all along the Atlantic Wall, but he focused most of his attention along the Channel, which was the most likely scene for an invasion, being within reach of air bases in Britain (Beevor p.33). Amended the prose to reflect that. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 7. "Many of the men were Ostlegionen (non-German conscripts recruited from Soviet prisoners of war, Georgians, and Poles)" - How about changing this sentence to "Many of the men were Ostlegionen (non-German conscripts recruited from Soviet prisoners of war, Georgians, and Poles), known to be deeply unreliable".
 * 8. I know there's only two in "German order of battle", but if you don't arrange it in the same way as "Allied order of battle", it will just look ... stupid.
 * 9. "but two men were killed and 17 wounded by mines and German artillery fire" - WP:NUMERAL says you should not switch between writing numbers in words and numbers in the same sentence, so I would recommend changing "17" to "seventeen".
 * 10. "Cherbourg fell in the Battle of Cherbourg" - Doesn't quite flow. How about "Cherbourg fell during the Battle of Cherbourg".


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 * The article meets the GA-criteria, but I would like the GA-nominators thoughts on my suggestions before it's listed, so going to put it on hold. Excellent job. :) Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 21:55, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jonas for the review and for your kind words. Most of the suggested amendments have been done, and the article is ready for your review. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Good job, Diannaa. I am passing the article. :) Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 23:40, 16 October 2014 (UTC)