Talk:Uti possidetis

Merge proposal
Uti_Possidetis_Juris and Uti_possidetis should be merged. Mathiastck 22:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, go ahead and merge them. Accounting4Taste 20:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Done Nik42 04:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Please refer to Talk:Uti Possidetis Juris#Merge Proposal --Jor70 15:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Uti possidetis de facto, which refers to effective possession at the end of a conflict and has existed since Roman times, and Uti possidetis juris, which refers to possession based on legal tiltle, are two different legal concepts.

http://www.ejil.org/journal/Vol8/No3/art6-03.html

The first time Uti possidetis juris began to have more than a bi-lateral character was at the Congress of Lima in 1848

http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~phensel/Research/iowa06.pdf

Go to section entitled 'Norm Emergence'

I think the article should make reference to both types of uti possidetisDab14763 18:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

2015
This article needs a reference to the United Nations Charter in particular article 2. The way it is written people are referencing Uti possidetis as the current ultimate rule of law when in fact it is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.106.103 (talk) 01:57, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

United Nations?
Should this article mention the UN policy that borders can't change through war? 2601:600:8500:5B1:218:E7FF:FE7D:6AFA (talk) 09:34, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Rewrite
I am totally re-writing this article (with proper sources), since no-one else will. I imagine I'll be another fortnight at least. If anyone is interested to collaborate, let me know.Ttocserp 14:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

"In 1494 Spain and Portugal agreed to divide the undiscovered world between themselves, with each country agreeing that it would respect the other's acquisitions on the other side of an imaginary line. The Treaty of Tordesillas prescribed this imaginary line running from pole to pole: Spain was to have the lands to the west of that line, Portugal to the east. Shortly afterwards, and around the same time, expeditions from both countries discovered South America. As the new continent was explored it was gradually realised that the Tordesillas line, though rather vague, gave Portugal only a corner of it, the vast majority going to Spain. (39)"

This above is what I changed. Source (39) is not a source, it links to two wiki articles. The statement is therefore unsupported. It appears to be original research so I removed it except a mention of the 1494 treaty.

"In 1494 Spain and Portugal signed the Treaty of Tordesillas.[37][38]"

This is how it looked after my removal. Sources 37 and 38 look as though they supported the text I removed but they did not. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 19:12, 8 December 2023 (UTC)