Talk:Utopia (Travis Scott album)

Misinformation
I’m seeing so much information about the producers and the list of names. 66.115.120.225 (talk) 22:18, 27 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Where Orbyfied (talk) 19:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Astroworld Crowd Crush
Why is this on the page? I feel like this was added as vandalism by a hater because it has no correlation with the Utopia album, it's recording, or it's release. Cedaria00 (talk) 01:01, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * there's some relation just off the fact that he was recording the album at the time of the incident and there's heavy speculation that it pushed back the album. 2601:588:8401:DE00:4C63:FB8B:5845:8914 (talk) 16:54, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Second single
No source says Delresto is second single. It should be removed 107.123.49.37 (talk) 15:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


 * It is actually: https://music.apple.com/us/album/delresto-echoes-single/1699702864. 99.33.56.27 (talk) 16:50, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Looove was recorded in 2014
There's leaked snippets that date back to around that year. Album Recorded: 2014 • 2019-2023 2601:588:8401:DE00:4C63:FB8B:5845:8914 (talk) 16:55, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Fourth studio album
This is his fourth studio album. Travis himself said it on Instagram. It also says it’s his fourth album on Apple Music, so I’m not sure why it says fifth. Freereigner (talk) 17:58, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Mixer missing
There were two mixers on the album there was Mike Dean and Alex Guessard (elevate audio design) Oof20ooo (talk) 18:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

What’s the genre???
Add genres please Hshakil786 (talk) 00:21, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Laundry list
"The album features guest vocals from [several dozen names that the reader most likely doesn't know or care about]. Production was handled by a variety of record producers, including [another bunch of names]."

Is this actually needed in the lede? It reads like a laundry list and doesn't add anything meaningful to the article. 93.72.49.123 (talk) 15:15, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I'd agree with you to a degree on some other albums, but considering that this one doesn't list features, many readers probably do want to know who's on it. ULPS (talk) 04:12, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2023
Add clarification about the timings for the feature verses to the song info, specifically FE!N so people shut up about it being homixide gang. Orbyfied (talk) 19:49, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ARandomName123 (talk) 23:01, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Genres
Biography/staff reviews are reliable, but do not use sidebar, as it may be user-generated or otherwise separately sourced from the prose per WP:ALBUM/SOURCE. Don't try to argue with me about genres while you can't add genres properly. Also, direct your efforts at discussing your changes on the article talk pages rather than reinstating them (WP:BRD). TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 03:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)


 * How about you actually read what I said instead of assuming I'm only looking at the sidebar? 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 03:14, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * "The psychedelic trap sound that brought Scott chart domination on his 2018 album, Astroworld, gets smoothed out into new forms of tense, atmospheric rap with big-screen production aided by a guest list made up of some of the biggest names in music". That's not explicitly calling the album trap; just because a source has the word "trap" in it doesn't mean it's explicitly calling it trap (see WP:EXPLICITGENRE). TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 03:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's literally saying that the trap from one is being transformed into this one... y'know what? Never mind.
 * Keep forgetting that this is a biased website that always favor inconsistency... you win, good day. 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 03:28, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Utopia is a trap album...
...but I keep forgetting the amount of Wikipedians who believe their citations/opinions are the end all be all of article discourse, and won't take anything else/new ideas for an answer, even if presented with evidence backing up any opposing viewpoints.

Utopia is cited as a trap album by MULTIPLE places such as AllMusic, Medium, and Album of the Year; there's no reason to stop it from being added as a genre other than the urge to be petty and gatekeep. 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 03:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)


 * You clearly didn't read the guidelines. Medium and Album of the Year are not reliable sources, and your genres are based on tags, not reviews themselves. If you want to continue to argue with this, go to WP:ALBUM instead, and let's see how many editors will disagree with you. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 03:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Nah, I don't need validation from others especially when the standard has been set for what's right and wrong on this wasteland of a website ✌🏽 4TheLuvOfFax (talk) 14:05, 16 June 2024 (UTC)