Talk:Uwu

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2021
"uwu" is not actually a word, but a text emoticon. One should exercise caution in using the "uwu" emoticon without clear irony, especially as a male, as it can have negative connotations outside of weeaboo circles. 2603:7081:3445:F400:F4C3:8F34:F6FA:8F2E (talk)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — IVORK Talk 23:40, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

It is asossiated with furries
Put that plz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.27.186 (talk) 15:58, 29 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 &#124;  𝕽𝕴𝕻 🇬🇧  &#124; ☎️ &#124; 📄 12:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

It's also associated with horny weeaboos and transgender 'egg' culture, too. Discord and Tumblr seem to be the ones spreading that most, which then made its way over to Twitter thanks to most people on both having active presence over there, too. 80.189.145.20 (talk) 21:00, 24 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 &#124;  𝕽𝕴𝕻 🇬🇧  &#124; ☎️ &#124; 📄 12:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Full copypasta
If notable, the "whats this" of uwu signifies the beginning of a copypasta that next goes "notices ur bulge" or something along those lines. Should someone add that to the article? --Bumpf said this! ooh clicky clicky! [insert witty meta-text on wiki-sigs here] 01:18, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 4 February 2022

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The result of the move request was: pages moved. wbm1058 (talk) 15:58, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

– Per WP:DIFFCAPS. The fact is that uwu is always a lower-case emoticon and never has all its letters in upper-case. It is also quite clearly WP:PRIMARYTOPIC to Ayere language. The version of UWU that is an acronym is the one that requires disambiguation as it can refer either to United Workers Union or Uva Wellassa University, among other things. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:05, 4 February 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Sceptre (talk) 20:04, 27 February 2022 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Uwu (emoticon) → Uwu
 * Uwu → UWU
 * Oppose. Because titles can't start with a lower-case letter, WP:DIFFCAPS does not apply as a reader entering "Uwu" and "uwu" will be directed to the same location. BilledMammal (talk) 22:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe you misread my move request, the point is to move the disambiguation page to all caps thus freeing up the primary namespace for the article about the emoticon. There is nothing about making the first letter of the title lowercase. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:52, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The lowercase title template works the magic needed to make the title lowercase, and upper-case links or searches can be handled with a hatnote, as they are on all primary-topic articles. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:00, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Nardog (talk) 21:11, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The emoticon is the only page that surpasses the disambiguation in |Uwu|Uwu_(emoticon)|Uwu_language|Ayere_language|Uva_Wellassa_University|United_Workers_Union views – and by a wide margin. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:00, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

UwU and OwO are not the same
They are different emotions and should have different articles they are similar but different — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.203.100 (talk) 09:30, 12 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @71.241.203.100 um ok? Yeuwu (talk) 07:57, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reliable source that proves this? InvadingInvader (talk) 21:57, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Does KnowYourMeme belong in external links?
WP:RSP isn't in favor of including KnowYourMeme, but I'm on the fence on whether it belongs here. InvadingInvader (talk) 21:58, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's a valid/useful external link. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 03:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Reliable history?
The one source ([4] at time of writing) that discusses the history is uses Know Your Meme {wp:knowyourmeme} as its primary source, and the claim has been strengthened from "this is the first confirmed usage in fanfic" (as opposed to chat rooms) to "this is the first usage on the internet" to "this is the first usage" (as presented here.) We should find grounds more relative than this! 2600:6C55:7C00:924:14D9:C6C5:4F20:71A9 (talk) 23:20, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 31 October 2022

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Per consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 13:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Uwu → UwU – It's more commonly used this way, since the eyes are usually above the mouth 72.10.126.194 (talk) 18:42, 31 October 2022 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose. It certainly started off as a kaomoji, but is now a word with a pronounciation, so should follow MOS:CAPSACRS - it has been "assimilated into English as an everyday word". Tevildo (talk) 19:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose lowercase form is more common. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 20:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:49, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. While seen as UwU, the article examples all use uwu. --Quiz shows 15:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The entire article spells it "uwu". The title appears internally in Wikipedia as "Uwu" for technical reasons. J I P  &#124; Talk 10:21, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Use of the word "allusive"
In the section "It also has a more surprised and sometimes allusive variant, OwO", what specifically does the word "allusive" imply? What is being alluded to? The fact that OwO looks more surprised is also the author's opinion and probably should not be included. I propose it be changed to something along the lines of "It also has an open eyed variant, OwO" Explodingcreepsr (talk) 19:13, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * What is being alluded to is the phrase "Notices your bulge", and the generally sexual overtones of the expression. Consensus here, however, is not to mention this explicitly in the article.  Perhaps we should do so - but, if not, the proposal to deleting this remaining "coded" reference seems appropriate. Tevildo (talk) 09:08, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This should be changed, perhaps to "sexually suggestive" or removed entirely. Allusive is hardly ever used in this context, and right now it sounds like the article was trying to say elusive, and just used the wrong word. Jwrush (talk) 19:11, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Why not UwU?
Isn’t UwU the most common way to use it? GenZenny💖 (talk) 22:33, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * See the move discussion that ended just 2 weeks ago. Meters (talk) 00:44, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

What was the fanfic?
Can we please get a web.archive.org link sound with a name for it? 2A01:4B00:E20C:6A00:439:3346:E862:A0BE (talk) 09:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

history definitely incorrect
speaking as a furry and an old weeb, we've used owo and uwu way, way longer than 2016. the source given cites urbandictionary as *its* source and neither of them are good sources here. 50.104.177.244 (talk) 13:26, 26 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The article does state:
 * The emoticon uwu is known to date back as far as April 11, 2000
 * It only claims that owo was supposedly coined in 2016. But you are correct that, like uwu, owo is much older:
 * ". . . and is then jokingly taken up by the blogger further down in the exchange with a direct reference to the word onion followed by the emoticon OwO, signalling positive surprise.", 27 August 2014, English as a Lingua Franca in Wider Networking: Blogging Practices (ISBN 9783110393958)
 * "I love the smell of new car. Yes, that means what it implies. OwO", 11 June 2008, Twitter
 * As such, I have removed the 2016 origin claim from the article.  ツ LunaEatsTuna  (💬)— 15:12, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Ironic Usage & "uwu-speak"
This article completely fails to mention its frequent ironic usage, as well as the combination of uwu with "uwu-speak", e.g. the expression of an ironic, or pseudo-ironic, statement that one loves committing war crimes might be rendered with in uwu speak as "i wuv to commit waw cwimes uwu" (please note that this statement is not intended to represent this author's opinions; it was chosen as &mdash; in their view &mdash; an archetypical example, which was stirred to recollection from memory after reading the sentence about the trolling of the US Army's Discord).

I'm not sure what, if any, sources can corroborate this, and I could be wrong now &mdash; but I don't think so!

Regards, 99.146.242.37 (talk) // 15:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)


 * It is frequently used in an ironic way. This probably should be mentioned. I have no clue how the heck one could even cite this though uwu Derpyhoi (talk) 19:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)