Talk:V'ger

Borg Homeworld?
In William Shatner's novel The Return, he states that the machine planet seen in Star Trek I is in fact the Borg homeworld, but as it is a novel, it is not actual Star Trek canon. --KoopaTroopa211 00:00, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The article implies that Rodenberry intended that the machine world that repaired V'ger to be the Borg Homeworld from the start. This is unlikely, since the movie came out in 1979, and the Borg were introduced in the second season of NG- around 1989. Poor phrasing in that section. CFLeon 21:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The Borg article heavily references multiple ideas of V'ger being part of their foundation, moreso than this article references the borg. It would be nice if one were made to more match the other for consistency. Tyciol (talk) 15:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, the article states that Lt Ilia was 'assimulated' -- further association with the Borg. In the film, her replacement clearly states something like "that Carbon unit no longer functions," meaning she's dead; where as those who are assimulated are very much alive and often return from 'assimulation,' including Captain Picard, for example. 75.15.152.63 (talk) 01:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Similarities to Nomad
I'm surprised that this article and The Changeling (Star Trek) do not mention the enormous similarities between V'ger and Nomad, both of which are cannibalized space probes from an ancient earth space program and both of which seek "The Creator", and both regard non-mechanical forms of life as an "infestation." Basically this is a recycled plot from the old series that was used as the basis for the original motion picture.

Haven't any commentators picked up on this during the umpteen years since the first film was released? --Tony Sidaway 19:56, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I guess this dates you as having been born since the movie was released, since it was mentioned in just about EVERY review that came out at the time, and a major criticism of the movie by eveeryone who saw it. CFLeon 21:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * That could well be true, but surely this controversy makes inclusion of the similarity more, rather than less important to the article? I too was surprised by its absence. Xarqi (talk) 11:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

This is mentioned in other Star Trek articles on Wikipedia, and the resemblance is apparently intentional. Oddly, it doesn't seem to be mentioned in all relevant articles, such as this one and the article for the episode featuring Nomad; maybe someone should go through them and edit this in there? (There's a footnote citing the official Star Trek site on the episodes list page, that may be useful to copy as a source.) B7T (talk) 01:13, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Redirect
Is there any reason this collection of plot summary and trivia shouldn't just redirect to the TMP article? --EEMIV (talk) 10:35, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Due to the lack of real-world treatment, lack of reliable source, overwhelming amount of plot summary, and lack of an assertion of notability, I've redirected this article to the TMP article. --EEMIV (talk) 01:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. I have reverted this decision on the grounds that this should be discussed first. V'gar is a fictional creation in the same manner that Dracula, King Kong or an X-wing are all in-universe creations. Should those articles be deleted and redirected then to Vampires, monsters or space craft? This article is far from perfect but attempts should be made to improve it before all the information it contains is deleted!


 * Please tale a few days to help this article meet WP:GNG, WP:RS, WP:WAF. This article has been flagged for maintenance for over a year. It is absolute cruft, no where near the notability of e.g. X-wing, Dracula or King Kong. Barring significant improvement, I will restore the redirect next Friday. If you revert it, I will take it to AfD, where the community's consensus will no doubt be either to delete the content entirely or to restore the redirect (since there is absolutely no encyclopedic content here worth merging elsewhere). --EEMIV (talk) 04:45, 20 June 2010 (UTC)