Talk:VP-24

=Help Needed= It would be great to clarify the squadron's nickname, and find both an image of the patch and of a squadron aircraft. I've seen some VPB-104 aircrew photos, so if anyone can track down public domain or "open" licensed versions it would be great to add those to the page or a sub-page. All comments, feedback and of course help are quite welcome!

=Notes=

Fleet Air Wing Leads
From http://www.pwam.org/virtual_museum/usn.htm:

FLEET AIR WING ONE
 * VB/VPB-104 GUADALCANAL
 * VB/VPB-104 GUADALCANAL

FLEET AIR WING SEVENTEEN
 * VB/VPB-104 MOROTAI, LEYTE, LUZON"
 * VB/VPB-104 MOROTAI, LEYTE, LUZON"

Munda
Up the Slot: Marines in the Central Solomons, Marines in World War II Commemorative Series, by Major Charles D. Melson, U.S. Marine Corps (Ret.) "...1942. In December of that year, patrol flights taking off from Henderson Field on Guadalcanal and from the decks of U.S. fleet carriers in the waters around the Solomon Islands discovered the Japanese hard at work on a well-camouflaged airfield at Munda on the northern end of New Georgia. This new field posed a definite threat to the Allies still fighting to wrest Guadalcanal from the enemy. It had to be taken, or at the very least, neutralized. U.S. pilots also reported another field being completed on Kolombangara across the Kula Gulf from New Georgia."

Redirect
I posted the following to User_talk:Looper5920:

I'm excited to see activity on the page (VP-104), but very concerned about some of your contributions. The current redirect of 104 to 24 greatly confuses the squadron history. I wonder if you would consider undoing the redirect so that the various incarnations of squadrons can evolve independently with cross links.

Please read all of the references in the original article before deciding whether to press for the solution you have proposed. As the |20:41, 24 November 2009 version of the article points out, there were many changes in the squadron number and mission over the years.


 * NOTE: each of those squadron numbers had very different missions. The mission of VPB-104 was very different from that of previous and subsequent squadron number reassignments. Each number flew different aircraft and most had different squadron commanders. Many also had different aircrews.

Your current redirect of 104 to 24 prevents history specific to each of the squadron numbers from being clearly described and clarified by additional researchers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jw4nvc (talk • contribs) 20:28, 10 March 2010 (UTC)


 * As far as the US Navy is concerned they are all one squadron. Almost every squadron in the United States military has changed names and aircraft during their tenure.  This does not mean that every time something changes their history and lineage changes. The article can be expanded to cover all time periods and missions but the name should remain as is.--Looper5920 (talk) 10:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I see that you've now added new sections for all the missing content, so it's less unclear why everything in the article so far is about the 104. I still like the idea of distinct articles for notable squadrons like the 104 (two PUCs and many other commendations), so I've requested a second opinion from User_talk:GraemeLeggett on your redirect. If they are all to be combined, I'd like to see that happen only after there is some content on the other squadron numbers.

I appreciate your many contributions to wikipedia, and would like to share a personal note. I beleive collaborative work like wiki provides more than just an exceptional way to preserve and present human knowledge. To me it's also a chance for discovering more about myself. I realized that I felt some attachment to the article, having invested so many hours researching and creating it. I was upset when it seemed to have been flippantly changed in ways that made it unclear, and am glad to now better understand what was going on for you in doing that. Jw4nvc (talk) 20:33, 12 March 2010 (UTC)