Talk:Valdosta, Georgia/Archives/2015

"As of the 2010 census" in Demographics-City was retrieved in 2008?
I hovered over the footnote and it says the quoted population number was retrieved before the census. The number, reportedly, was influenced by previous estimates, such as a 2005 estimate. Could this be explained? (One justification might be that, before 2010, the actual "2010 Census" involved doing "dry run" practice censuses in different places.) Another resolution would be if someone just did do a current retrieval from the Census (now that it is over) and updated the figure, or corrected what looks like a mistake/oversight in the footnote. Thanks. 24.211.185.44 (talk) 10:24, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

"Richest city per capita in 1910"
To my knowledge, Fortune Magazine wasn't even started until 1930; this is confirmed on the Fortune webpage. And unfortunately, the reference listed for this quote in the Wiki article gives a 404 now. Can anyone confirm that this 1910 Fortune magazine quotation listing Valdosta as the richest city per capita in 1910 actually exists? I can't find any actual confirmation other than quotes from this Wiki article. I think given the inconsistencies with the Fortune Magazine date versus its first publication date, this seems like erroneous information that is now being propogated throughout the Internet. Should it be removed? I'll leave it to those who regularly monitor this page to decide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.195.49.244 (talk) 19:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Football 2004

 * ".500 winning percentage five out of the 86 years." "5 out of 86 must be an error". Bubba73 18:04, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Anybody with half a brain outside Valdosta? That's a very unfair generalization of football and sports fans in general. High School football is very important in Valdosta just as it is in MANY cities across the United States. I'm sure there are many in parts of Texas, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and California among others who would be quick to agree.

As New York City is known as "the Big Apple" and The "Windy City" is Chicago Valdosta is known as "Winnersville" BECAUSE of the football programs of Valdosta High and Lowndes High to not mention them in an article about Valdosta would be akin to NOT mentioning the beaches in an article about Miami. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.212.213.40 (talk) 03:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

J.D. Drew
He is actually from Hahira, his mention on the Valdosta page should be moved to the Hahira page. Others agree? --Mjrmtg 15:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't agree, the article really discusses the greater Valdosta area. --Stang281 07:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The article discusses Valdosta. There is no greater Valdosta area. --Mjrmtg (talk) 22:54, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

My first reaction was that he should stay, however, if he is from Hahira, he should be moved to the Hahira page. The page is titled Valdosta, not the greater Valdosta area, if Hahira has it's own page, that is where he should go. That's cool though, i didn't know that. Marky1991 23:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

My father and daughter were born in Hahira. My Father would never say he was from Valdosta. Since J.D. played his High School Baseball with Lowndes High School, and his MLB.com mini-bio referes to "his hometown of Hahira, GA", I say take him off. Samatva 22:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, he should only be listed on Hahira's website. --Mjrmtg 23:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, he went to Hahira Elementary. - Presidentman 22:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

All 3 of the Drew brothers Tim Drew, Stephen Drew and J.D. Drew must all be from Hahira. Two of their pages say Valdosta. Anybody know what city all 3 of them are from? Can anyone provide "citations"? --Mjrmtg (talk) 11:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It appears that J.D., at least, was born in Valdosta, but there is no question that all three consider Hahira their home town. Valdosta Daily Times story.   Ortolan88 (talk) 16:58, 1 August 2008 (UTC) Born in Valdosta, living in Mass watching J.D. hit.  We once drove up to Hahira to collect a couple of croker sacks of snow when none fell in Valdosta.  Hahira is in no sense a suburb of Valdosta, then or now.


 * Also there is a sign when you drive into or out of Hahira that says Home to J.D, Tim, and Stephen Drew (I have a picture of the sign!). So I would assume that that would mean that is where they are from.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.20.207 (talk) 22:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * PS -- Totally off-topic, but I can't resist adding the old folk wisdom: "Adel is so close to Hell you can see Sparks." Ortolan88 (talk)

Past population
That is not organized. Basketball 110   what famous people say  19:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there another small table that would go better there? Basketball  110   what famous people say  19:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Voting Percentage
The percentage isn't shown anywhere in the citation, remove it or I'll do it. 72.208.169.2 (talk) 05:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It is in the Valdosta Daily Times reference. --Mjrmtg (talk) 16:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Small town?
I don't know if this would actually count as a "small town". Many towns in the south have small town mentalities, but this place has about the same population as Potomac, Maryland. Has the population gone down in recent years, or what? ForestAngel (talk) 21:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 'Small city' might be more descriptive. -- Donald Albury 22:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * On my last visit in 2002, it was twice the size it was in 1958 when I left, the wilderness of Joe Ree's millpond transformed into suburban bliss. Valdosta is what it always was, the main commercial center of south central Georgia, where you go to sell your tobacco and turpentine, where you go to get born (Hahira's famed Drew brothers).  It is definitely a small city, but Macon and Albany outshine it, and I'll bet people still go to Jacksonville or Atlanta for serious medical issues. Ortolan88 (talk) 17:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Valdosta has been designated a metropolitan area, but still has a decidedly small town mentality. Both "small city" and "small town" would be appropriate.69.134.127.3 (talk) 05:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Having taught privately in a "small town" (c. 5000-6000 population) and knowing which amenities are there and which are not, Valdosta is most definitely NOT a small town, regardless of "mentality." It has at least one hospital, a university, a huge high school (within the city limits, plus Lowndes Co. HS which is also huge), a shopping mall, and lots of franchise restaurants and stores.  TRUE small towns (which I think of as less than 15,000 or so people) usually have none of these.  --NetherlandishYankee (talk) 12:23, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Water Tower?
Can someone explain why a picture of the water tower appears in this entry? Seems completely random and irrelevant to me.69.134.127.3 (talk) 18:35, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see it replaced with a picture of city hall, I'll try to get one on. --Mjrmtg (talk) 15:51, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Done --Mjrmtg (talk) 15:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

"Biggest little nonsense in Georgia"
A Google search for the exact phrase "Biggest little city in Georgia" yields only three results, this article, a New York Times article about a soldier from Lagrange and a reference to Columbus. Try it yourself.

Just in south Georgia alone surely Albany (actually has a post office) and Macon (baseball team plus some of the greatest names in rock and roll) are both bigger and more important little cities than Valdosta.

"Azalea City" is real. The time I miss Valdosta the most is in February and March when it is still miserable in Massachusetts but I know that Valdosta is glowing with azaleas. The "Winnersville" is okay by me (although I do think that 90 percent of it is Valdosta High and the rest is just noise).

But trying to make something out of the "Biggest little city in Georgia" is what my grandmother called "as useless as whistling 'Dan Tucker' to a harricane".

-- Ortolan88 (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

PS: Class of '58 bonus reminiscence: Valdosta High cheerleaders, first sticking out their chests -- "Georgia peaches" -- then turning around and flipping their skirts up to reveal the "VHS" on their butts -- "Texas cactus" -- followed by the taunt -- "We play T-ville [or whoever] just for practice!" Ortolan88 (talk)

Troupeville is virtually abandoned
I just restored the parenthetical phrase "now virtually abandoned" to the description of Troupeville. My mother was friends with a family that owned a lot of property there and our family spent many summer days on their land along the Withlacoochee, particularly in the sandpits, and never saw any sign at all of Troupeville. Unless Troupeville has undergone some dramatic regrowth in recent years, it is virtually abandoned. If it has had all this great growth, it deserves its own article. Ortolan88 (talk) 15:47, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, it is pretty hard to find the exact area of the old Troupeville location. There is a newer area in Brooks County  on Hwy 133 just past the Lowndes County border sometimes referred to as Troupeville but not the same as the old location.  --Mjrmtg (talk) 20:27, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my typo.

I expect you'd go out Troupeville Road to find it. :=) The place we went to was right on the Withlacoochee River and quite near where the  Little River branches.Ortolan88 (talk) 23:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)