Talk:Valet parking/Archives/2012

Spam link
User Timivers keeps adding a link of no encyclopedic value to the external links. On the page, it includes a link to an email address to request Valet Parking services from the owner of the site. This is what is considered commerical marketing and is the kind of link that is not allowed on Wikipedia. CuTop 22:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The user, TimIvers, who keeps adding the link is the also the sales director of company that is the site's owner. No self-promoting links, please. CuTop 00:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Why is the link http://www.valetpark.net/valet_tips.html considered commercial? It offers free resources for consumers searching for valet services. There aren't many resources on the web with regard to this subject. How is this SPAM?????


 * Tim, now that you changed the page - taken off the email link and the Google ads, I am will to allow this link to remain (as long as the page it links too doesn't go back to how it was before). CuTop 21:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for reconsidering.

Some one deleted all external links on valet parking page. I put one of the links back up but didn't know the url of the other link.

Once again the external links were deleted. I put them back. Why are these links being deleted?

Again ALL external links were deleted from this page... WHY???????????

BestValetParking.com keeps deleting external link and replacing with his own link. Please take actions to stop this person from doing this.


 * These links have been removed (again) and will continue to be removed, unless, of course, someone comes up with a link that meets Wikipedia's External links policy. Please read, thanks. -- Mwanner | Talk 18:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Concise History link seems to qualify as a valuable link and passes WP:EL. The information contained on the page is invaluable to a researcher of the topic. It seems to be accurate and it should be noted that the topic is a difficult one to research and nothing better exist on the web, to the best of my knowledge. I attest that this is not my website, so there is no Vanity issue. CuTop 20:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

CuTop You have already approved the valetpark.net link ":Tim, now that you changed the page - taken off the email link and the Google ads, I am will to allow this link to remain (as long as the page it links too doesn't go back to how it was before). CuTop 21:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)" Please explain why you are now contradicting yourself. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.61.89 (talk • contribs)


 * How am I contradicting myself? CuTop 21:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * There is nothing in either of these links that deserves inclusion.


 * The "Concise History" is laughable: "Valet parking service probably first appeared in America in the 1930's. Valet parking was offered in urban areas where parking was scarce such as New York, Chicago and San Francisco. Yet nowhere did valet parking flourish as well as it did in Los Angeles. Curb-side service quickly became the norm in the City of the Automobile. Pictures of the Hollywood elite tossing their keys to the friendly valet became an instant symbol of status across the country." (emphasis added)


 * This is based on what, watching a few old movies?


 * And note that User:69.14.61.89 has devoted the vast majority of his edits to adding this link to this article, and the closely related link (limofinder.net) to the Limosine article (also deleted as spam), thus pretty clearly violating the WP:EL sanction against adding one's own site to an article. His only other edits are to add spam links to another site he created: see his Talk page.


 * These links cannot stand! -- Mwanner | Talk 21:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I have no idea what the info is based on. I am not the site owner or websmaster. I was doing research on the hsitory of valet parking and could find no info anywhere on the subject. Even the Wikipedia article was lacking any real info. Then I happened upon the Concise History one. It isn't rich, I'll grant you that, but believe it or not it's the best thing going out there. I think we would be gravely remiss in our duty to users of Wikipedia to delete it from this article. CuTop 21:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * While the link may be entitled 'history', the link contains nothing encylopedic for the article.     The first bit is a definition from the american heritage dictionary.    The second part says that the model t ford created a need for parking.    The final two short paragraphs are the only 'history' in the page.    It states that parking 'probably' started in the 1930s (we don't need links to speculation), that it started in NY, Chicago, SF and most importantly LA (no sources, i'm sure we could find pictures of hollywood stars getting valet service), but this web page does not provide them, and that valet parking is happening in more and more places today (again, this source isn't really credible, we can conclude this from many different sources).      The web site in question doesn't support anything in the article, and it meets external links] normally to be avoided criteria #1 and #2.    The only reason I can see to put that link there is to boost this parking service's page rank, so EL #5 applies here.   This article does need sources, but I think that people are going to have to go to books in order to get reliable ones.  - Trysha (talk) 00:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. I'll let you know now, however, there aren't many books on the subject which I have seen in my research. CuTop 00:31, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Criticism?
Has there ever been a negative incident involving valets? I see these hip young men hanging around, just itching to drive some fancy car, and I am very suspicious. If there are any reports or studies regarding negative impacts of valet parking, it would be very nice to add them. ---Ransom (--71.4.51.150 (talk) 16:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC))

Shenanigans
I have marked the Shenanigans section with a "Disputed-section" template. While the information may be true for some situations, I do not feel that it could possibly represent the valet parking industry as a whole. However, because it is a large section of the article, I do not want to remove it without further discussion. Oldiesmann (talk) 23:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

This section is a joke. I'm deleting it in a few days if no one disputes it.Dough007 (talk) 00:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Done Dough007 (talk) 12:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

can a valet parker act like a cop?
Can a valet parker hold you against your will, claiming he believed you keyed a car? Which he now left marks (bruises) on the arm he held roughly? He sat there fighting me until he flagged a cop down. There were no keys in my hand, no car I even drove because I was getting picked up from the night club. Does he have the right to do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.109.156.117 (talk) 02:34, 24 August 2010 (UTC)