Talk:Valley

Project
hi im doing a project on glaciers and valleys at school, and we've got to find out what a hanging valley is, i wonder if you could be any help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.72.140 (talk) 17:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, firstly, always sign your contributions to the Talk pages of Wikipedia. Secondly always look for the correctly-named article, for example Hanging valley. You can find this using the search facility. Work from there, as you would from an encyclopaedia. If that article is inadequate, then comment on its Talk page Talk:Hanging valley. Ian Cairns 18:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Article
I'm not sure what happened to this article. I looked at the history and am a bit confused. I can't quite tell if tell if the Bot deleted the article, or a vandal did. I'm going to go recheck, I guess, unless someone can explain it to me -stupid moment-. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.210.3.31 (talk • contribs).

Rewrite and merger
I merged in 'U-shaped valley' and 'V-shaped valley to this article. All 3 were poorly written, and very repetitive between and within themselves. I also merged 'Hanging valley' as it was only one paragraph. Much of the merged material was rewritten; I kept all relevant information.

Also, 'valley shoulder' was redirected here, as it only duplicated paragraphs of the others. The way, the truth, and the light 00:04, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I agree with the mergers...but it is probably no big deal. Did you clean up all the redirects?--MONGO 03:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think U-shaped valley should be returned...it is a feature of glaciology that probably needs it's own article and only a summary on the Valley article itself. I counted two now double redirects and dozens of others that probably should link to U-shaped valley.--MONGO 03:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * There wasn't enough distinct information in U-shaped valley to justify that. If someone wants to write a decent, sourced article on U-shaped/glacial valleys, that would justify splitting it again.


 * Also, I thought bots cleaned up all the redirects. That's why I haven't been doing it. The way, the truth, and the light 03:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know if bots do that or not...maybe sometimes. I'll see if I can come up with more details and create a more substantial article about U-shaped valleys...I haven't checked the times V-shaped valley is used in various articles...but more often than not, V-shaped valley is used less than simply valley...many valley's with a distinct V-shape are more commonly called a gorge or canyon.--MONGO 03:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Valley Floor
The entry on valley floor cuts in with a discussion of villages part way through without any context. I'm not sure how to fix this other than a delete. KalevTait (talk) 18:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Shoulders
The page has several references to valley 'shoulders', but the meaning of the phrase is not clear. 4.246.247.13 (talk) 02:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Clay as a rock?
From the Vale section: "where the chalk dome has been eroded, exposing less resistant underlying rock, usually clay." This statement is incorrect, as clay is a soil, not a rock. Also, the section as a whole also seems to imply that vales only occur in chalk formations. I'm not a geography or geology expert, but I'm not sure if that is true. Either way, there are no references in the section.

I can take a stab at rewriting this section of the article, but not at this moment. If anyone else is going to start, leave me a note here, otherwise I will put it on my list of things to do and get to it in the future. --JonGDixon (talk) 17:18, 7 March 2012 (UTC)


 * In Geological terms, any material that forms part The Earth's crust is described as "rock"; irrespective of its hardness, texture, or common usage: . This is a rare example of a 'technical' term being wider in meaning than the common usage: usually technical terms are more precise than normal definitions.  Ben of Chichester  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.211.106 (talk • contribs) 11:37, 16 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Changed to claystone. Vsmith (talk) 13:11, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

List of valleys
Is it necessary to have that long of a list of valleys in the article? That seems like it should be on its own page, rather than crowding out valuable article space. Devinthepeng (talk) 20:19, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Examples of valleys
The bullet point which reads "Some Scottish glens full with bushes and flowers." is inadequate and requires revising. It is proposed that the revision retains the reference to glens in Scotland (ref required) and refers to the through-glens common in Wester Ross (ref required) and elsewhere in the Scottish Highlands which formed underneath an ice-dome but do not show sharp basin-ends, rather they run into each other at their upper ends, providing convenient routes for transport.Curamach (talk) 19:00, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Curamach.

Types of valleys
The list given requires revising. Vale: A valley through which a river runs. Revise: A broad river valley. Dell: A small, secluded and often wooded valley. Glen: A long valley bounded by gently sloped concave sides. Revise: Originally a large valley in Scotland, often used as a term for any valley. Strath: A wide, flat valley through which a river runs. Revise: Originally a wide valley in Scotland, interchangeable with glen. Mountain cove: A small valley, closed at one or both ends, in the central or southern Appalachian Mountains which sometimes results from the erosion of a geologic window. Hollow: A term used sometimes for a small valley surrounded by mountains or ridges. cwm (also spelled combe or coombe): A deep, narrow valley. Revise: Originally a Welsh mountain hollow which was the source of a (now absent) glacier. The same sort of feature is known as a coombe in England and corrie in Scotland. A steephead valley is a deep, narrow, flat bottomed valley with an abrupt ending. Erosional valley: A valley formed by erosion. Structural valley: A valley formed by geologic events such as drop faults or the rise of highlands.[2] Dry valley: A valley not created by sustained surface water flow. Revise: A valley not containing sustained surface water flow. Curamach (talk) 19:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Curamach

Article still in need of much attention
For such a significant topic, this article leaves a lot to be desired. Referencing existing material would be a start, as has indeed already been noted; it would likely entail removal of various pieces which, as written, offer little useful information to the reader. It's a broad subject and there are many regional variations in the use of terms for example; it will be a challenge to attain a truly global perspective. I may have a go at some of it. cheers Geopersona (talk) 07:36, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The 'Notable examples' section has become too long and unwieldy - I think it would better if the reader were simply given a link to various lists pages, so far as they exist. Some of the geuninely notable examples will still appear within the body of this article as examples of one type of valley or another. Geopersona (talk) 11:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)