Talk:Valley of Ghosts (Crimea)

Application for course page currently pending on Education noticeboard Limelightangel (talk) 15:40, 5 October 2016 (UTC)Limelightangel

Submission
I had sent our text in word format (05.12 afternoon version) to native speaker and she just sent me back the file with some corrections. Unfortunately, text has been already changed and I can't make these corrections. She works all day, so I cant ask her for the revision again. Lets just submit this page. Lynx 15 (talk) 20:33, 6 December 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15

Relevant images
Consider using Wikicommons materials. Limelightangel (talk) 13:06, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I think we should change the titles of the images because at the moment they're in Russian. I'll do it. ✅

Queen giuly (talk) 19:03, 22 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I changed the caption of all the photos. Could someone please alternate the pictures with left and right justification for different sections, rather than having them all on the right side? Thanks.Queen giuly (talk) 16:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC)  ✅

I alternated some pictures on the left side. You can check it Sellellena (talk) 17:01, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

About the "History" section
May I ask under the section "History", what does the following sentence mean exactly?
 * "Near the valley, on the mount Demerdzhi castle ruins of 13-15 centuries are located."

Jhjsff (talk) 11:12, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Actually, it doesn't make sense. I'll check the grammar of the whole page this evening and tomorrow. Thanks for your contribution.Queen giuly (talk) 11:57, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

I'll check grammar errors and modify this section this week. If there are some sentences that i cannot understand, I'll let you know. Sellellena (talk) 14:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Geology section
Thank you for your contribution in this section (talk). but i think it is better to modify 'Geology' about the Valley of Ghosts. Because our page is about "The Valley of Ghosts", not the mountain Demerdzhi. Mountain Demerdzhi's information is secondary one. it is sure that we need geology section so if we find infomation about the Valley of Ghosts, we can make that section but if we can't, we cannot make that section. Sellellena (talk) 14:43, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Sellellena, just read once more how you changed sentences: You really think that the sentences didn't lose sense? And moreover, that it is correct? Lynx 15 (talk) 18:17, 30 November 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15
 * conglomerates could found quartzite and pink granite
 * Mountain Demerdzhi is the only place in the Crimea which can observe the phenomenon of "Brokkensky ghost"
 * from "Therefore, the primary task - is to get to the village from Alushta or Simferopol." to "There are two ways to get to the village from Alushta or Simferopol."

You wrote:"Another way from Alushta, one can ...." What is another way? The text that we wrote before is about how one can go from Simferopol.Lynx 15 (talk) 18:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15

An example of big foto: Landform Lynx 15 (talk) 19:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15

Improvements and ideas
Good morning everyone, I wanted to ask you what, in your opinion, should be done to improve our page? What should we add? What should be removed? What should be implemented? I think that we should make a list with all our ideas on how to contribute to do a better job on the page. I want to know your ideas about that. Thanks.Queen giuly (talk) 11:50, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

First of all, It is better to check grammar errors and sentences that we wrote it. I think contents in our pages is okay for me, so don't have to remove it. Just check sentences that make sense. But if we find better content from now on, we can add it and also combine "Flora' and 'Fauna' in one subject. Sellellena (talk) 12:03, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I like the sound of "Flora and Fauna" under just one section, it sounds better.

Anyway, I'll create a sort of draft in which I'll write down what improvements are necessary in order to have a better vision of the page as a whole. Thanks for your participation. Queen giuly (talk) 12:10, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Good morning. We need to add a sections about climat, geography and, may be we should add something in see also,fauna and flora. I have sent u a lot of links in facebook, if u remember, so u can use them :) I can try to find some film photos, if u remind me the soursers... and please, lets add information and after that check our grammar. it's a little bit dissapointed to see that only i add information and u just correct some sentences :( Lynx_15 (talk) 13:12, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I also suggest to check the grammar after we added all the needed informations.

Anyway, I just added a map of The Valley of Ghosts in the Infobox and removed a previously posted photo to post it in another section. Queen giuly (talk) 12:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

I think other sources we add is okay for me, but I also agree to combine Flora and Fauna section because I think it is too short for single section. I will check the grammar first and try to fix it but if there's incorrect thing please let me knowYe1201 (talk) 13:08, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

I add the section of Climate. I wrote really simple info just now. So if anybody have sources in climate, you can add it, An also we tried to correct some sentences and add some sentences based on what you did! Because editing is also important work that we have to do. So don't depressed;-) I'll find some sources about climate and think about the word that can combine Flora and Fauna.  Sellellena (talk) 13:56, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Today, I'll try to add something about wildlife (hope to be able to find something relevant). If you find something else, please be free to share it. Thanks.Queen giuly (talk) 06:55, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

I modified the similar place someone else had previously added, because there were no similarities in what you previously wrote.Queen giuly (talk) 19:18, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

We should check the intro section because it isn't pretty accurate so far. And we should also edit the section "Flora", because it has a poor content.Queen giuly (talk) 19:34, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

I changed a title of the section "Transport" to "Tourism". Like on the another similar pages. For example: Tsingy de Bemaraha Strict Nature Reserve Lynx 15 (talk) 19:05, 27 November 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15


 * I just reviewed the text because it was very poor in grammar, as professor Walker suggested.

So I tried to use more refined words instead of simple ones. Queen giuly (talk) 16:37, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Legends
Good morning everyone, could someone please rewrite the whole "Legends" section? It looks like meaningless to me. Thank you so much everyone.Queen giuly (talk) 06:53, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

As I previously said, the section "Legends" needs to be rewritten because it doesn't make any sense. Could Natalia please do it? Moreover, we should move the section to the bottom of the page, next to "Films" section.Queen giuly (talk) 19:06, 22 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I think I finished rewriting it last week, please check. Jhjsff (talk) 10:02, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * The text on the two legends is too long. I think that's better to do a quick summary, not a long essay.Queen giuly (talk) 16:59, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Climate
I think we should add an "average monthly climate date". ✅

Furthermore, we should add some references about this section, because there isn't any. Last but not least, we should specify what type of degrees we're dealing with: are they Centigrade or Fahrenheit? Queen giuly (talk) 19:14, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

I'll add information with references in this section on the 24-26 of November. Tomorrow i have an exam. Lynx 15 (talk) 19:27, 22 November 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15

I add the chart of the climate. Sellellena (talk) 20:03, 22 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Queen giuly (talk) 13:34, 23 November 2016 (UTC)You did a great work Saewon!

U added data for not correct region. I am fixing this.Lynx 15 (talk) 18:31, 27 November 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15

Further additions
I think we should add the page to some relevant categories, I'll check it as soon as I can. ✅

Moreover, I think that we should add a geo location or a GPS hypertext link. Not done:

Lastly, we should add a section on geology and try to figure out how to answer to some basic questions, for example "What are the rocks made of?". ✅ Queen giuly (talk) 19:21, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Categories
I choose some categories. Is there any category that our page have to include? Sellellena (talk) 20:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

We have to add a "Geology" Lynx 15 (talk) 21:26, 22 November 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15


 * What categories did you choose Saewon?Queen giuly (talk) 13:37, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

'Category' means the section of category, not the subject like "Geology". You can see the categories bottom of our page. (If you don't know what is the 'Category', it is better to get information from online help. i add 'former populated places in Russia', 'Former populated places in Ukraine', 'Visitor attractions in Crimea'. We have to use Category to link in other pages. Sellellena (talk) 14:08, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Saewon, may I ask you how did you do it? Thanks for you contribution.Queen giuly (talk) 19:30, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

It was misunderstanding. Lynx 15 (talk) 17:27, 27 November 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15

Gallery
I found some images at Wikimedia commons, but when I add one image, the previous image has gone. Is there anybody delete that image? and why??Ye1201 (talk) 15:18, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I deleted it because it wasn't a Gallery. It was a section named Gallery.It’s okay to have a Gallery, it’s just that there’s a proper template to do it. So, if you want to create a Gallery, you should look for the proper templates on Wikipedia.Queen giuly (talk) 15:23, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Giulia~ Can you show the gallery which you saw?? I want to see it to referring for our page.Ye1201 (talk) 15:27, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Giulia you mean this Gallery pages ??Ye1201 (talk) 15:30, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Look here: Chufut-Kale Lynx 15 (talk) 15:37, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15

Oh, I understand what you saying. I will try to make it on our pageYe1201 (talk) 15:44, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Gallery pages is a page about photoes. It is not what we are doing. I suggested to make a section like on Chufut-Kale. Lynx 15 (talk) 15:46, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Lynx_15

I just made an template that you can add some images on this section. This is not gallery which just upload ONLY photos. We have to use template so it looks more good.Sellellena (talk) 15:54, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Cooridinates are wrong.
Seems coordinatess go to Mariupol area. By the way no mention to human technology 10000 years ago 95.123.119.65 (talk) 11:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)