Talk:Valtierrilla

"the leg guy named Bird"?
In a discussion of precolonial pottery. Will restore if able to discover what was meant Elinruby (talk) 10:49, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Mystery word
"madonte" ... Appears to have been intended as an adjective modifying "riverbank" but I don't know what it means and neither does Google. Possibly mis-spelling or typo. Elinruby (talk) 05:36, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Juan de Acuña Marquez fortified house
Clearly a name has been translated here which should not have been. Problem seems to also exist in Spanish, interestingly, so perhaps the text was translated into Spanish; might explain why it is so bad. Anyway, this is a research question now...guy appears to have been important enough to be in the histories Elinruby (talk) 06:24, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * fixed this based on his en.wikipedia bio, assuming THAT is accurate, but it's at least no longer silly Elinruby (talk) 11:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC) Elinruby (talk) 11:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Mangled number format
"On March 3, 1980, an area of 5,10,95 hectares was expropriated for the CFE to construct a portion of the thermoelectric plant in Salamanca." --possibly not notable for en.wikipedia anyway Elinruby (talk) 11:44, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Elinruby (talk) 11:44, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

"as with many other Hispanic cultures"
Seems like a generalization that could be wrong and isn't needed anyway. I also question whether a prehistoric Mexican culture should be called Hispanic, since this was a thousand years before the conquistadors Elinruby (talk) 12:02, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Elinruby (talk) 12:02, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

"shoal"
This looks wrong but is in fact apparently a name for the specific region where these rivers meet. Not sure this second how to fix this Elinruby (talk) 12:05, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Elinruby (talk) 12:05, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Translation
After I began translating the parts of History which come from the Spanish version of this article, I felt that I should document some of the choices I made in translation. First, I dug through the history of the WP:ES version of the article and found that in the version of that which this is based one, the mystery word Fames is actually a typo of the indigenous group Pames. Next, "capilla" was translated as shrine, but looking at context and the dictionary, chapel seems much more likely. History of land litigation seems much better than background information for "antecedentes derivados". I think here "tributo" means tax. Juan el Demografo (talk) 16:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Unable to find any information on an "arroyo feo" so I just assumed that it's a simple descriptor. I took "toma auge" as the following things peaked. I feel satisfied, so I removed the rough translation tag. Juan el Demografo (talk) 02:01, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Found that it was capitalized while sourcing article.Juan el Demografo (talk) 15:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Mystery Source
"Landavazo 1996, page 167" was cited at the end of the paragraph, apparently supporting the claim about the Indians' donations. I couldn't find a trace of the source, so I removed it from the article. I hope someone who comes across this might one day find it.Juan el Demografo (talk) 15:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)