Talk:Vampire's Love

Look, I originally read the books in High school, and years later I remember them, found them online on Amazon.co.uk, (see: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blood-Curse-Point-Horror-Vampires/dp/0590139819/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363996941&sr=8-2, & http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blood-Spell-Point-Horror-Vampires/dp/0590139843/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363996941&sr=8-1), and I started this article. I'm still reading them, I don't have a lot of spare time at the moment. The only references I can give is from the books themselves, as the books were released 18-years-ago. It is no-longer in print, you can only get them second-hand.

If you delete the page, I will just have to start again. I will update when able to do so. Before you even think more on deleting the article, READ THE BOOKS FIRST!

151.227.108.146 (talk) 00:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi there. First of all, I wanted to make sure that you know that, per Proposed deletion, any Wikipedian, yourself included, who objects to the deletion of the article is free to remove the proposed deletion tag. However, if the tag is removed and the article is not improved using reliable sources to demonstrate notability, it is very likely that it will be nominated for a deletion discussion. And if the books are no longer in print and online secondhand shops are really the only sources, it is likely that the books simply aren't notable enough to meet Wikipedia's guidelines. There is no requirement that any Wikipedian read the books before making any decisions about the article; what's important is what sources say about the books. This isn't any reflection on the quality of the books or of the article; it's just that Wikipedia isn't intended to be an indiscriminate collection of all possible information. Please ask here if you have any questions about this. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 00:31, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I've redirected the page to the main article for Point Horror. The big thing about this book series is that it lacks enough reliable and independent sources to show that the books pass WP:NBOOK. They exist, but existing is not notability. I found one sole mention, but that's not enough to show notability for this series. To show notability you need sources that are independent of the publisher, the author, or anyone involved in the books' creation or promotion. A review from a source such as Publishers Weekly would count, but I just didn't see anything of that nature. It's sort of par for the course for any books released pre or early Internet, but especially for children's books. Most of them ran solidly under the radar even during their heyday. Of the PH novels in general, only the most visible tended to gain any sort of media attention. Even the more visible of the PH novels, such as Diane Hoh's Nightmare Campus, didn't really gain much attention from RS. I remember having to really fight to keep her article when it came up for AfD because her stuff hadn't gotten a lot of serious attention. Anyway, long story short: there was only one reliable source and the books themselves don't count as a RS, nor do any merchant links. Recreating the article will only result in it getting redirected unless you can provide sources to show that it passes notability guidelines. As far as whether or not we read them or not, that's irrelevant. Notability is shown by sourcing, not by whether or not we've read them. (Which, BTW, I have. Years ago, but I vaguely remember reading them.) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:25, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * That said, if you would like to have a copy of the article transferred into your userspace so you can work on it, I see no issue with that. Just remember that it would have to pass notability guidelines before it is re-added into the mainspace.Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:27, 23 March 2013 (UTC)