Talk:Vanessa Hudgens/Archive 1

Drake & Vanessa
People magizine reports that vanessa also sent provocative photos to Drake Bell while she guest starred on "Drake and Josh". Would that be considered a credible source, or not? Keep in mind that even though Drake's representitive says he never got the photos, Drake and Vanessa have the same representitive. Just wondering. Someone please help me out here. here's the quote on jake's page "In a twist to September 2007's Vanessa Hudgens nude picture scandal, People revealed that the High School Musical actress once sent risqué photos of herself to Bell, though Bell's spokesperson stated that "Drake says he never received those photos."http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20055444,00.html"Xylogirl07 22:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Nude Photos
Ok, now that we know the nude photos are real and not just a rumour, do we mention it? 65.81.132.252 20:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It's still not particularly notable, in my opinion,though it no longer violates WP:BLP unless there's a credible claim that the photos aren't her. --Yamla 21:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Still dubious, myself. WAVY 10 21:28, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It's real. http://www.tmz.com/2007/09/06/hsm-nude-pic-its-the-real-deal/ Wieners 23:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Also Vanessa might not be in High School Musical 3 because of these photos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.154.217 (talk) 04:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, she will be, and I regret that.

she's already fired!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.104.172.197 (talk) 14:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC) mo duh she hasent benn fired

no she isn't —Preceding unsigned comment added by HighSchoolMusical603 (talk • contribs) 03:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Vanessa has NOT been fired. Her Disney has confirmed that she will be in HSM3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.43.225 (talk) 00:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If those are, I would imagine there would not be a HSM3. WAVY 10 16:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Disney has NOT confirmed that she has been fired. The link given on that information is to a known gossip site.  I think this information is very dubious.  Disney employed Lindsay Lohan long after she had done worse things than this.  The girl makes them money, Zac Efron will SURELY not sign for HSM3 without her, and the kids will not watch it.  Disney still cares about bucks, and this is not a decision they would make right away.  I do not trust this information.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.138.42.218 (talk) 12:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


 * So I read on MSN, but frankly considering its source (gossip site), I would need a top level source to determine what needs to be done. WAVY 10 16:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Well its official that the photos are deffinately her so i think it should be added somewhere.. it has also been rumored that adrienne bailon will replace her in hsm3 Amstoakes 21:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I created a sub-section reserved for that picture issue. WAVY 10 21:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Due to all of the vandalism related to her nude photo, the page has been fully protected. Apparently someone thought it would be funny to upload the nude photo to wiki (has been deleted as vandalism =]) and then put it on her article.  --Malevious  Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 21:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "Vandalism" seems inappropriate; at worst it's a copyvio. Why the big warning against linking to the photo???  It illustrates the subject in question. Get some perspective and don't be such fanboys.  I've never heard of this woman or any of this "HSM" crap until Bill Maher mentioned this nude photo on his show. 71.246.26.93 11:44, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You're kidding, right? It's a negative image, and it's tabloid content clealy inappropriate for an encyclopedia, especially for a site children visit all the time and an entry that probably is on the top of her search results. It's common sense to enforce a no link/post policy on the picture, and there's other sites that can (and have) post it.

(link redacted)
 * And trust me, I'm not a fanboy of hers; I'm more into different and older actresses with more acting chops than Vanessa has right now. But clearly there is a need to make sure idiots don't run hog wild and turn her article into junk. That's why we're so protective, and also because there's libel laws that could threaten our project if we did post it. We're not going to put this site in danger because of that. Nate 19:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * She already admitted that the photo is of her; it is not libelous. 139.84.112.151 19:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That being said, they're highly inappropriate for this site, and would definitely be cause to endanger the site under the TOS Wikimedia Foundation's ISP governs us under. Not to mention that if the date the picture was taken is confirmed as before she was 18, that's even more cause to avoid posting it at all costs. I think most of us refuse to endanger our project just on the off chance that's true. I won't argue this further, because it's clear on the fact the picture was used to disrupt the article, thus meeting the vandalism guideline very easily, and we refuse to have it happen again. Nate 20:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not post the link again; it's disruptive. Nate 20:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


 * "It is not clear how the controversy will affect Hudgens' role in High School Musical 3." I thought that it had been announced that Adrienne Bailon will be taking her place as Gabriella? Can someone confirm or deny? Th 2005 00:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The Adrienne Bailon thing was a rumor. Disney is "supporting" Vanessa; see here - . -- LBM  | TALK TO ME  02:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Disney doesn't want to drop her, she makes them the big $$$ and besides, it's just a little skin. Disney reps have also come out saying that her personal life is seperate from her professional life. 23:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Personally i think we should change it to scandal not controversy coz controversy means like speculation scandal sounds more better and shes admitted it soo...--Stef1024 10:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Of course it should be mentioned! If Pete Wentz's photos are mentioned, it's only fair that hers are too! Besides, because of this she is/probably will be fired from HSM and that's pretty much all she's famous for! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.110.101.98 (talk) 21:41, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Look, vanessa took photos of herself naked, look at all the other stars that strip and pose naked for the camera, do they get fired or mentioned alot, no so y dont everyone just give vanessa a break, she doesnt need this right now she has already apoligised for her mistake and if disney and Kenny Ortega fire her then no one will watch hsm 3 not even me, it will be a waste of time making that movie.

STOP TAlKING TRASH ABOUT THE POOR GIRL SHE IS HUMAN LIKE EVERYONE ELSE LEAVE HER ALONE!!!!! WHAT IF SOMEONE GOT A HOLD OF PICTURES LIKE THAT OF YOU!!! I BET YOU WOULDNT WANT ANYONE TO SAY ANYTHING LEAVE HER ALONE OKAY! JUST BACK OFF SHE IS UNDER ALOT OF PRESSURE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.243.130 (talk) 23:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Look, Vanessa is a beautiful and talented young woman, she has a bright future ahead of her and people should stop talking trash about her because we all make mistakes and we are all human. She clearly made a mistake, cut her slack, my god, everyone makes sucha big deal out of her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.72.98.45 (talk) 18:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Pressure mostly of her own making. WAVY 10 23:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hah. I see what you did there, Chris Crocker. --Quess 02:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

She shouldn't have takin the pictures in the first place not a very nice move —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.161.79.220 (talk) 03:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC) Stop talking about her!!! She must have made a mistake. I'm sure she didn't mean it. Give her a break people!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mimzii (talk • contribs) 04:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Uh, Mimzii, this had kind of died down. No one's been talking about it much since the end of September. WAVY 10 Fan 13:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

But where on the web can see her nude photos? Purely for reasonable purposes of course. I want to authenticate her nude or naked and not some stand-in or look alike. You consider me an authority if you wish and if you wish to show the photos.... Purely for professional reasons I assure you... Thamks in advance. No I am not salivating. 134.241.194.66 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

In any case, if you really need to talk about how you or anyone else would feel in this position, or where you could get the pictures, WP isn't the place (unless there was a link to the pics as a resource to users). As it says at the top of this page, this is not a discussion forum. CatMan (talk) 01:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Vanessa's Personal Life-Dating Zac Efron
People think that he's isn't,but he is it said in the magazines!!!!!!!!!


 * Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. See WP:NOT.  If you believe this information will still be of interest in ten years' time, please discuss why you believe this.  --Yamla 22:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't believe this info will be relevant in ten years time, but my question is why is this info on the Zac Efron article and no one seems to mind? Ðysepsion † Speak your mind 03:21, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Look at the Zac Efron talk page where the information is being questioned for the same reasons. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions

ZAC AND VANESSA are dating! --Miquah 10:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

There's a rumor that says they just broke up !?!?!


 * WP:RS. We don't do rumours.  --Yamla 21:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


 * its WP:N becauses its triva,part of most articles, Cited and current informantion/people together(consesus) says it useful..WP:CON

Plus it is needed info many people do not know it and therefore it should be in the trivia section of HSM EVEN as a past trivia because it relates to the movie, Plus here because it relates to both his article and HSM 1&2 _____.:!Ninja!:._____ 20:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I originally agreed that the info won't be relevant in 10 years but after browsing through several articles I'm very surprised why so much debate is focused on the inclusion/exclusion of this info. The Jennifer Aniston article mentions her relationship with Adam Duritz and it's not even cited. The Natalie Portman article mentions her several brief relationships with several actors. The Jake Gyllenhaal article mentions his dating situations as well. These are just some examples. Some may say that this relationship with Efron and Hudgens is just casual dating but then again so were the examples I just mentioned. You can argue that Wikipedia is not tabloid and I for one have argued for this in the past but this doesn't stop people for including info if its cited. (Refer to Fergie's article and her "onstage incident". It doesn't get more tabloid than that.) My point is, if you exclude this info, then why would you allow the same type of info present in other articles? It seems unnecessary to be nitpicking on this and the Zac Efron article. Ðysepsion † Speak your mind 22:14, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * http://www.splashnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/splashnews_macny030807a_01.jpg, "Our houses were all lined up in a row. I was on the end, with Vanessa [Hudgens] next door. The best part is that we had maid service, so my room was always clean." http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272615259.shtml

http://www.onetruemedia.com/otm_site/view_shared?p=35a22fc99d04d8f230e449&source=category&category_id=22
 * This enough proof for u? Ive now read three different articles there is some speculation but Za does quote they "Clicked, I think its enough proof but ill look for more... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Matthew2c4u (talk • contribs).
 * As I said at Talk:Zac Efron, that's not even close to being proof. Metros 01:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I could look into a source, people. They are dating, they have been called "Zanessa" in teenybopper magazines. There was a rumour that they were on the brink of breaking up then exchanged "promise rings", I know that Wikipedia is not for rumours so please, people find proof for your "stories". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unintended Disaster (talk • contribs) 04:18, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

On The Zac Efron article it says that they're dating, either it should be on both or neither, make up your minds--JG ROX 121.216.101.15 07:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Man...I HATE HER! SHE IS A SLUT! ZAC SHOULD BREAK UP WITH HER RIGHT AWAY! SAVE US ALL AND MOVE TO ANTARTICA VANESSA! ZASHLEY IS SO MUCH BETTER!

Zac and Vanessa broke up b/c Zac doesn't like Vanessa's nude picture scandal and Vanessa said that they broke up on a youtube video. check it out.

Josephine
In Rolling Stone Vanessa was awarded Hottest Jailbait of 2006. should this honor (or whatever it is) be mentioned?Technobabble1 23:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe this picture is from 3 years ago. Could someone find something more recent (possibly from the movie or press) and swap it? (Make sure to be careful with copyright)--Jonthecheet 06:12, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * (Note--above comment was edited/vandalised somewhat by 205.155.33.107 (reverted) Weien 05:45, 24 February 2006 (UTC))
 * Hm... looks like the image has already been cut out, in this edit (Feb 16, 06). But isn't it better to have an older picture than to not have one at all (don't think appearances change that quickly ^^). Should we revert it back? Weien 22:46, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Her appearance is fairly similar in High School Musical. The only main difference is hairstyle.  All the easily available current photos are probably licensed by Disney.  I'm going to put the pic back in, and I'll look for another one.  Bpogi92 23:14, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I will leave it as it is for the moment.  I've requested permission from the webmaster of Vanessa Anne Online to use one of the pics on there.  Bpogi92 00:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * If you're unable to get permission from the webmaster, I can try taking a (somewhat low-res) screenshot/screencap from High School Musical--do you know if that'd be copyvio? Weien 00:09, 18 February 2oo4 (UTC)l
 * Oh, and any particular reason for not putting it (the original pic) back in for the moment? ^^ Weien 00:11, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No not really; just too lazy. thing, and I am not sure what exactly that means when it comes to copy-vio. The TV Tom thing dates back to March, which was before you posted it here, but I'm still not sure. Anyway, the main reason I removed a lot of the text was the break of NPOV, for instance, lines like "Vanessa is able to incorporate both backgrounds into her daily lifestyle" (??), "there's no doubt that her talent will get her there", "which she showcases her abilities as a triple threat", "This role shot her to stardom as she become known all over America. High School Musical has even gone world-wide, exposing Vanessa to the world!" (and especially the "!" after many sentences). This is all not exactly neutral. I incorporated, however, most of the actual information into the article as it is now. As for the trivia, some of it was already in the article, some of it was redundant; I suppose some of it could be put into a "Personal life" section ("Trivia" sections in themselves are un-encyclopedic). I know I seem to be too harsh, but basically these are the kinds of standards we should aspire to. See Larisa Oleynik, Amanda Bynes or Mandy Moore for neutral, well-organized and fully sourced (citations for where you got the information - reliable sources like interviews, for example - are important) articles that are in Good articles status. Hope that helps... Mad Jack 04:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It's nice to see that there is at least someone actively working on this who is not a vandal or a crazed fan. And who is also familiar with Wikipedia policy. Bpogi92 00:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yeah... in that sense, I always feel like the odd man out here Mad Jack 00:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

it is so true that vanessa is with somebody.

Fan site
Ok, Vanessa Anne Online is just a fansite, and whenever I try to add Vanessa Anne Network, people keep deleting it. It's a newer site and I like it, and I know a lot of people that like it, so that's why I put it on here. They have good updates on that site and they have a good forum too. They keep us updated on Television Appearances and other stuff too. I first read about the Emmy Nominations for High School Musical on there, so they're pretty good at getting news about Vanessa. I believe that it should be aloud to be added on here in the external links section along with Vanessa Anne Online, because it is not a "spammy" website. It's a good website with the biggest Vanessa forums.
 * We are allowed one fansite under External links, so that can be the one if you want. Mad Jack 21:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Image
How about this Image? It's small, but it really make's her look like me. Click to so the image
 * Doesn't look like this image is available for our use. Check out the site's copyright policy.  --Yamla 02:26, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

There are way to many different sections on this talk page regarding the pic! I can get one from HSM, it'll be a snapshot, i've made the same offer for the Zac Efron page cos there isn't one for him either. I won't change it before i get permission, but i was under the impression that movie snapshots were ok. --JG ROX121.216.101.15 07:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No, this would be absolutely inappropriate. See WP:FU.  --Yamla 14:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

New Pic
Is it possible to change her bio pic...again? I'm sorry, but can we please have one that doesn't have her hair blown everywhere? It doesn't look nice to place that on her bio. There are tons of gorgeous pics of Vanessa at the TCAs. --KaitlynBelle 22:51, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Picture
We definitely need some kind of picture for the header... if anyone can help... Mad Jack 05:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

can we put the LASTEST pix of vanessa and zac in their bio?just for the sake to prove others wrong..that they are STILL dating.--Miquah 03:34, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Almost certainly not. See WP:FU.  --Yamla 14:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The naked one would be good proof of that! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.18.30.164 (talk) 15:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not funny! WAVY 10 Fan 13:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I dont understand why the picture dosnt have any encyclopediac use...honestly, I just think its censorship.--76.14.36.100 12:26, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * And get this page locked to non-admins again: I don't think so! Besides, there are plenty of younger kids would might search here because they want info on her. Would you want a 10-year old to see that? WAVY 10 Fan 13:27, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * More basically we can't use the nude picture as it is a picture of a living person that requires a copyright release that meets wikipedia rules. It effectively has to be a public domain picture, which the nude picture isn't. Every picture is copyrighted by default by the photographer. Someone would have to prove they took the picture and overtly release it under a license that wikipedia would use. This is the same for ALL pictures, bio pictures are the most strict. --NrDg 13:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

formatting issues?
Wait ... what happened here? —  pd_THOR  undefined | 22:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome for the picture.
Thanks to my free time, I was able to service to you all with a photo of Vanessa Anne Hudgens.

The picture is from IMDB and all respects are to the publishers itself. I assume you all know that it's for the terms specified on the information page of the image.

Remember. --AOL Alex 01:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I removed this tag because it should only be posted on the image pages themselves. As for your picture, it seems to have been deleted. The only pictures that we're apparently allowed to put in the header are free pictures (i.e. ones that Wikipedia users or others took themselves and allow free use of) or promotional images designed specifically to promote the person in question. Of course, we can always sneak in other pics, like screen shots and the like, and hope they don't get removed. Mad Jack 01:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Please do not sneak in any screen shots as they are fair use. Greeves (talk • contribs) 02:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Vanessa Hudgens
I think its time the article's name be moved to "Vanessa Hudgens". Because her singing career has often refered to her as such. Even though I personally like it as "Vanessa Anne Hudgens", I think its time to do so. Tell me what you guys think.  ЅυđÜѕєя85  Talk to me 13:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This sounds like a good idea to me. Any objections?  We would certainly leave Vanessa Anne Hudgens as a redirect.  --Yamla 13:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Like Suduser85, I like it with the Anne in the middle, but I support this name redirect. bibliomaniac15 00:07, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Let's give this a few more days. If there are a few people who want to appeal to/against this decision, please feel free to do so. ЅυđÜѕєя85  Talk to me 13:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I think is time to rename the article..... I like better "Vanessa Hudgens"...and as musician she is refered like that

Sounds good to me; she goes by Vanessa Hudgens, doesn't she?

I oppose. As an actor, she's credited as Vanessa Anne Hudgens. She's originally an actor, so it should stay as Vanessa Anne. Pink moon 1287 19:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I also oppose this. You should go with the full name if a person is ever referred to by it, especially if it is how it is originally credited. It avoids future difficulties if other Vanessa Hudgens surface later too. Tyciol 00:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I also agree that we should rename it as Vanessa Hudgens. We could leave Vanessa Anne Hudgens as a redirect. User:StarbuckDude

I also think it should be Vanessa Hudgens; more and more she is credited without the Anne.

Her most popular fan website, http://www.vanessa-hudgens.com, does not include Anne.
 * Fan sites don't matter, and that's easily done to make the URL shorter and easier to remember. It is immaterial. Tyciol 00:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Also her official myspace does not include it. http://www.myspace.com/vanessahudgens
 * Same as above, web addresses are not valid arguments. Tyciol 00:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * They don't just mean the web address, they mean the title of the page, the graphics, etc, which all use "Vanessa Hudgens" only. Tamajared (talk) 00:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Ethnicity & name
Filipino, Chinese, and Puerto Rican (from her mother); Irish and American Indian (from her father)

Hudgens is half-filipino as her mother is pure filipina. I also believe that the "Other names" section be deleted as it is not a totally different name, it just removed the second name of Hudgens. kathzzzz® 10:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

she was home schooled until the 7 grade.


 * huh???? kathzzzz® 09:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually she is Filipino, Spanish, Irish, Indian, and Chinese! She said that once in an interview. --Roxy3 00:15, 25 January 2007 (UTC)Roxy3
 * Of course there's Irish in there. Everyone is part Irish.  Bill Clinton.  Mohammed Ali.  Eddie Murphy.  Pope Pious I.  Jesus.  Moses.  God. Everyone knows that. -- 86.17.211.191 21:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

She is just saying that to make her sound exotic. PrincessOfHearts 18:31, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Well what she said in the interview was true about her ethnicity. --72.199.189.59 04:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

When I read what she claims her ethnicity is I almost cried laughing. No-one has that much blood mixed in them! I know that the US is a melting pot but come on! Unless some distant relatives of hers were hookers it just wouldn't happen. Looking from the outside at US claims to ethnicity it is clear that many people clutch at straws. A big one is the Irish connection. Many people in the US claim to have Irish blood when what they mean is that some old decendent they never met came from Ireland a hundred or more years ago. They've never been to Ireland or anything. If you follow all this ethnicity stuff back I am in fact part English, part ape! Cls14 00:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, she is half-Filipino, so it doesn't surprise me with the litany of supposed ethnicities. Filipinos are know for grasping at ethnic straws and "embellishing" their family pedigrees.  It's practically a Filipino pastime.  A good article to read about this on Wikipedia is the colonial mentality article.--Wambeter 09:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you see if that interview has a link or something or verify it from another source? C1s14, I know many people with more blood mixed in than Ms. Hudgens.

I looked up a bit regarding Filipino ancestry. There is the native Filipino ethnicity, but her mother's family name is Guangco, which is the Philippine version of a Chinese sir-name. And quite a few of the Chinese who came to the Philippines in the previous century inter-married with the Spanish colonialists and the native Filipino people, so the part of her being part Chinese and Spanish would probably be true. In terms of Irish blood, we're talking about ethnicity here, and not whether one has been to their land of origin or anything like that. I am third generation Chinese (both my maternal and paternal grandparents came from China) but I have never been there. My culture may be a hybrid of many things, but ethnically, does that make me any less Chinese? 203.214.5.103 02:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * You are incorrect. The fact that Ms. Hudgens' surname is Guangco is NOT proof she has Chinese ancestry.  Guangco, and the similar Cojuangco are names from the Catálogo alfabético de apellidos, a list of surnames the Spanish colonists created for the native Filipinos to choose a surname, as pre-Spanish era Filipinos usually only went by one name.  Most of the names were of Spanish origin, but many were words from other languages, including Chinese (Chua, Fang, Quinzon, Yi, Jonson, Hizon), Malay (Gadya), Arabic (Sulayman), Catalan

(Ortells, Llop, Puig, Lletget) and Basque (Echevarria, Labadia.) There are even surnames from Latin (Rex), German (Ymbrecht), Italian (Buffardessi, Parco) and English (James, Burton, Gray). There are also surnames whose origins are unknown: Odgial, Lundete, Bux, Cheregumi, Yaeld, Zaerg, Jevod-vod, Gaxual, Fuñigan, Coppocopyo, Gleyoni, Heorlas, Nealloc, Niex, Micarabungbung, among many others. So a native Filipino could have chosen the surname Guangco and not have Chinese blood at all. Also, as to Ms. Hudgens having Spanish ancestry, the chances are very small. According to a genetic study, no more than 2% of all Filipinos had Spanish ancestry. This was because there were very few Spaniards in the Philippines to begin with. So having the name Guangco doesn't prove what you say. The reason why this is so contentious is because many Filipinos engage in pedigree forgery. You should read the Wikipedia article, colonial mentality, for more information.--Wambeter 10:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter what her ethnicity really is. I doubt anybody really knows the totality of their greatn grandparents origins. The article includes a direct quote from her. The quote reflects what she believes and the article makes no judgment of the truth or falsity of her personal beliefs, nor should it. Unless anybody can find a reliable source that discusses this issue, we can't say more than we do now as otherwise it would be original research. --NrDg 16:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I was correcting the statement by 203.214.5.103. Having a Chinese surname in the Philippines is not proof of Chinese ancestry.  As to your statement that nobody knows the totality of their great-grandparents, that's false as well.  Many people of all backgrounds take genealogy quite seriously.--Wambeter 06:38, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Couple
Zac said he likes Vanessa because she being herself. but she likes him too

Next time, please sign your comment using four tithes. Do you have any sources to back up your claim? Storched 02:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

ZAC AND VANESSA are oficially dating...we should add this one to her bio-page so that there would be no confusion..and there are some interviews in omg which proves it and if you don't get contented with that..check thei web www.zanessa.com you should see it for yourslef --Miquah 03:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)sharp-witted girl

Garcia Brothers?
The name of the show is "The Brothers Garcia" not "The Garcia Brothers". The latter is an entirely different show which took place more than 40 years before Vanessa was born.

Personal life
There are a lot of grammatical errors in the Personal life section. Edit, anyone? It really seems like an 11-year-old fan wrote it.Sammyluvlucas 01:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it was an 11 year old fan. Wikipedia isn't just for old people you know, lol. Cls14 00:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

We're not old, they're just little. Too little to be writing for Wikipedia in fact.

Ecko Unlimited
Hudgens is now a model for Ecko Unlimited along with JoJo.

Redirection
If this page is to be redirected again, the information should stay the same, or at least very similar. If something is cited here, it should be cited on the new page. Be careful of this.

Her Voice Type
I think she is a great singer, so I would like to know further about her range and whether she is a soprano or a mezzo-soprano etc. I personally think she is soubrette but Britney is one and Vanessa's voice is stronger, but Vanessa's voice has the sweetness of a soubrette. So Id appreciate any ones views on this. Many thanks! :D 82.12.250.153 20:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

She is a indeed a soubrette I believe. She nearly has a 2 octave vocal range which is around average for a singer. The higest note she hits is an A4 which is taking you into Soprano territory but due to as you say the sweetness of the voice and the development of the voice I would feel more comfortable classifying her as a Soubrette. 82.12.240.47 23:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Partial Rewrite
The section about "Top 10 List of Forbes magazine's top-earning stars under 21." needs to be rewritten. It's poorly written with bad grammar. Currently I don't have time to rewrite it myself, so if someone gets a chance can they rewrite it please. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 21:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Vanessa fired from Disney?
(link redacted due to link to picture) "Update: It was just a matter of time, Hudgens has been fired from Disney, saying "it was irresponsible of her to do what she did." Adrienne Bailon, star of 'The Cheetah Girls' will replace Hudgens in the role of Gabriella."

Is this reliable source? 09:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Certainly not, it's just a T&A site. It's just a piece of the original statement with a bit of opinion filled in. Nate 10:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see this source: In a statement, Disney said it hoped Hudgens had learned a valuable lesson. "Vanessa has apologized for what was obviously a lapse in judgment."

A Disney representative said the photo would not affect its decision to cast Hudgens in the third film of the "High School Musical" franchise and that negotiations for the cast and creative team were continuing. -- zzuuzz (talk) 10:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit protection request
In the photo controversy section:

Disney Channel spokeswoman Patti McTeague indicated that Disney will still be working with Hudgens, stating, "Vanessa has apologized for what was obviously a lapse in judgment. We hope she's learned a valuable lesson."


 * I see protection is on this article for BLP issues, not for content dispute, but want to ensure there is consensus before adding this in. Please comment here.  Thank you, —  xaosflux  Talk  15:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This seems to be appropriate and well sourced. See also the Reuters quote above. The fuller comments should replace the current vagueness about her role in HSM3 in that section. -- zzuuzz (talk) 15:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Included both ref's in the section above with . — xaosflux  Talk  15:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Added. Thanks, —  xaosflux  Talk  19:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, any administrators, feel free to edit the article, and non-admins, please post requested edits to this talk page; I'll try to watch it over the next few days. What I'm trying to make sure is that the photo, and links to the photo, stay out of the article, and to do so, the article's pretty much got to stay protected for a few days. Ral315 » 19:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Please readd "However, Hudgens will not be participating in the Disney Channel Games 2007." to the film and television section. She did not appear in the DC Games 07, not quite sure why there was a cn tag there. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 21:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Good thing, in hindsight.  WAVY 10 17:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

"Let's Dance" On Audition Online
Why has the information about her song "Let's Dance" being used for an online dancing game been removed? It wasn't violating anything and I think people should be able to find out her song was used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by StargazerBlue (talk • contribs) 03:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Date of Photo
I hear that the nude pictures may have actually been taken around 2005, before Vanessa even became famous, and that they were emailed to Drake Bell and leaked somehow. Does anyone know if this is true? I heard this from a bunch of gossip sites. DisgruntledEditor 14:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If that's true, I just thought of another perspective. Could the photographer be arrested on child pornography charges? WAVY 10 15:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If it's true than possibly, unless she took them herself. There is this new thing on a camera called a timer! Either way its an unsourced rumor. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 19:48, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * She's born December 14, 1988. While the photo showed up this September 2007 at which time she was 3 months shy of her 19th birthday (being 18) it's true that we don't know when the photograph was taken. Most likely it was taken recently and showed up immediately, or it was taken a while ago by a friend (she mentioned mistrust) and then they got in a fight and he posted it, or someone got the picture from her friend, something like that. If it waited more than 9 months to surface then it would indeed by child pornography by most laws. This is the difficulty with photos I guess, you can never really tell how old the ones on the cusp are. If it does turn out to be a year old or something, then that'd probably put at least half the population of the United States in jail right? Tyciol 00:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Publicity stunt
Any reasonably intelligent person should have no problem deducing that this whole photo affair is nothing more than a publicity stunt. Shes following in the footsteps of Paris Hilton. However, I can't find any reliable sources for this fact, looks like most are too scared to publish it. So if anyone can help me out, it'd be much appreciated. Please don't add this piece of information to the article until a reliable source is found. Thanks THE KING 22:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Wanna search for WP:RS claiming she would be willing to sacrifice her career (certainly, her reputation)...for what?!? WAVY 10 23:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, Channel 7 News in Australia today suggested there was evidence she had leaked it herself in order to gain some notoriety to fast track her career. She certainly has the notoriety now (I had never heard of her before this) but whether it will fast-track this teenybopper remains to be seen.  It may have backfired on her.  210.50.60.109 07:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


 * So far, it looks like it backfired. WAVY 10 16:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit request
At the end of the "Photo controversy" section, I request that the following text be added in a new paragraph at the end:

"It has been reported that Hudgens has been offered $500,000 to join Girls Gone Wild. In a press release issued from a Nevada state prison, Joe Francis, who offered the deal to Hudgens, said 'Vanessa Hudgens is the classic girl next door gone wild. Being sexual is not a crime... She took a picture. It was leaked, and now it is time to move forward with her career.'  Hudgens' rep hasn't commented on the report."

Ksy92003 (talk)  23:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I have denied your edit request. I would recommend that you find a more credible source than a tabloid, something more along the lines of the associated press.  bibliomaniac 1 5  15 years of trouble and general madness 00:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright, I suppose. I assumed the source I provided was credible because there are a couple statements that also use postchronicle.com as a reference.  If it isn't a credible source, then I suggest that the statements in the article currently which use postchronicle.com as a reference be removed, but I'm not gonna editprotect those statements because I'm not clear about WP:RS, but it seems quite reasonable to me that if my request was denied for that reason, then similar statements should be removed.  Ksy92003  (talk)  00:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this statement is really necessary for the article. Celebrities get offers to pose nude and such all the time. Didn't Larry Flint have a million dollar offer for Jenna Bush if she decided to pose nude for Hustler? I don't see any mention of that in her article. So, is it that necessary to go in? Metros 01:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I would say that it is necessary to include because it proves that the image has gotten notable attention. It's a part of this whole "scandal" and it shows that the release of the image onto the web has gotten notable attention.  It's a huge part of her career at this time, and I think it's rather important.  Ksy92003  (talk)  01:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I hope this isn't for real. This will be totally forgotten in about 10 minutes from now since folks have the attention span the size of a sand flea. Can we just move on? Thanks, --Tom 18:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, Tom, but she already admitted it was her. (I was hoping that wasn't myself). As for Metros, if Jenna accepted, that WOULD be necessary. The inclusion of the mentioning of the photos is necessary if for no other reason, Hudgens has/had a "squeaky-clean" image. Let's suppose (hypothetically), this was the Bob Saget page. Using this logic, you would probably oppose mentioning his vulgar stand-up act. This would probably need to be mentioned mainly as a contrast to his squeaky-image on...Full House.

P.S.: What do you make of this story (first half of page)? More Vanessa Fallout (my name for it) WAVY 10 21:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

spokesperson for Neutrogena
Is this spokesperson thing really relevant? It seems like advertising to me. Ole-p 21:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The Neutrogena girl to this generation means the same thing as the Oxy or Clearasil girls in the 80s, or even in the sense of Brooke Shields with Calvin Klein. It's high-profile, their ads are all over The N, CW, Fox and other teen-targeted shows, and almost every teen and young woman's magazine. It's pretty much the 'you've arrived' signal for Young Hollywood girls these days. JMO. Nate 22:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, the girl who played Marissa in the OC was this for a while right? Now that her character died and this one is still portraying a high school girl, she's in. Plus I mean, everyone KNOWS she has nice skin now. Tyciol 00:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Photo Controversy
editprotected Another slew of photos were leaked to the internet on September 14th, 2007. With photos including Vanessa in a girl-on-girl kiss and grabbing another girl's breast.

Can someone provide a reliable source...Wait a minute, it says CBS News. Can we get something else as well(better to be safe than sorry)? WAVY 10 22:18, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't see anything new. WAVY 10 22:54, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * What edit is being requested? &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 20:37, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clarifying the request. As long as the page is fully protected, it's inappropriate for anyone to add content to it. You should contact the protecting admin, Ral315, to clarify when the page can be unprotected. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 21:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I would say that a reliable, primary source should be found (this is a CBS News/AP story referring to a New York Daily News story - it's at best a secondary source). Even with a source, it may not follow the biographies of living persons policy.  Ral315 » 01:14, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Common name
In accordance with WP:COMMONNAME, the name of this article should be Vanessa Hudgens. I believed this was addressed back in October, and most people agreed it should be renamed. ~ UBeR 22:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I would agree that the article should be moved to Vanessa Hudgens. I never thought to use her middle name when searching for the article until I noticed that I was being redirected every time. —Mears man 04:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It was agreed upon last time that since she is referred to in film credits and such as "Vanessa Anne Hudgens" the page should be kept that way. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 16:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Make changes to the article
Please somebody read the sources and things people have requested and change them. I thought that the whole point of Wikipedia was for it to be able to be edited by everyone so that it would be the best information possible. I understand that this article needs to be protected because of vandalism, but still, what people write on the talk pages should be taken into consideration and if the changes aren't going to be made, a reason why should be clearly stated on the talk pages. Is that so much to ask? Xylogirl07 00:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * editprotected is not for requesting unprotection. If you want an admin to make changes to the article for you please outline exactly what needs to be changed. ---J.S  (T/C/WRE) 16:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I wasn't requesting unprotecting. I was requesting that the admin in charge of the article actually reads what people request. i requested that the photo controversy be updated to include the drake bell incident as well as recently released pictures, and the new statements that have been released to the media, or at least a reason why this edit was rejected, but there was no response, as well as that the other people's requests be addressed. is that so much to ask? honestly. leave it unprotected. But listen to everyone else's suggestions.Xylogirl07 22:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Apologies for the delay; I've been on a business trip, without internet access since Friday afternoon. I haven't seen any reliable sources on the Drake Bell theory - all I've seen is that People magazine quotes an anonymous source who says that's where they came from - that wouldn't seem to be enough.  As the new pictures go, I haven't seen a reliable source yet, and it doesn't seem to be that notable (very little media attention was paid to the new photos, as far as I can tell).


 * As for the new statements, I'm not sure exactly which ones you're referring to. As J.smith said, you'll need to suggest specific changes; while I've tried to learn about Ms. Hudgens, the photos, etc., I honestly had no idea who she was until this happened, so I'll need you and others to help me as to exactly what you think should be edited.  Ral315 » 01:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

24.176.110.51 06:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)how is linking to the picture not encyclopedic? what happened to sources? I've seen plenty of other instances of 'scandalous' video and images linked in the relevant articles on wikipedia. how does this differ?

also, I noticed somebody deleted my previous post on this page. I understand it was short and likely not even legible to a good number of people, those my expanding my description of my concern here. So it's safe to assume this won't be deleted. Right?24.176.110.51 06:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

zac and vaneesa split
In the chocolate magazine it states that zac and vanessa have split. Is this true and should it be mentioned.Trimy67 22:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a reliable source to me, it seems like a glorified gossip site (and created for pop-up traffic, it took me a minute to close their pop-overs). The article cited doesn't show where the quote came from, and it doesn't mention anything about them breaking up. Let's stick to the mainstream and PR sources only. Nate 23:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I can track the split back from other stories back to OK! magazine, and there's a story on their website about, which can be read here. But I think the first two words of the article's title says it best: "Rumor Mill". Definately not a [{WP:RS|reliable source]]. Tabercil 02:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/entertainment/2007-09/20/content_6122017.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.74.254 (talk) 00:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

The OK! magazine's article on the website claims a rep for Vanessa say's the story isn't true. so either Vanessa is covering up, OK! is lying about Vanessa's rep, or OK! lied and then edited. either way it's not concrete enough to change anythingTechnobabble1 01:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

There's a story here about it

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4208645a5620.html

this site sounds real...well it is^^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.103.77 (talk) 04:53, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * This seems like a tabloid as well...I may want to look for a more reliable source to confirm. WAVY 10 Fan 13:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

lawsuit
she's getting sued for $150k for breach of contract and unjust enrichment; there are plenty of references, but this page is protected. || b ac k sta bb 00:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * True. There are stories about the lawsuit on MSNBC (here), BBC (here) and People magazine (here). TMZ.com has one better and has copies of the actual court documents on their site: here. Tabercil 02:37, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I think she got fired from HSM 3, is this true? I also heard that Zac is goning on strike. This all happend because more pictures where found of her nude. (Hyorinmaru272 22:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC))

It should be added to the article as it is relevant, September has been a tough month for Hudgens :/ 82.25.184.162 21:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

High School Musical 3
Vanessa won't be in the third high school musical film, so I sugesst that you should take it off. in the US Weekley magazines, it has stated that Vanessa Hudgens will defintley by replaced by The Cheetah Girls star. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoFerg (talk • contribs) 14:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, cite it then -- Gen. S.T. Shrink  *Get to the bunker*  21:50, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Vanessa will not be replaced by Adrienne, as the HSM3 is still in talks. The "US Weekly" article was not true. Us Weekly has not created such article, and you can tell by the grammatical errors anyway.Sammyluvlucas 13:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope. Nothing to be found: the most recent article that can be found via a Google News search containing the words "Vanessa Hudgens Adrienne Bailon" is dated September 14th (this tidbit). In fact, not one of the results in question is for US Weekly. And there's still no reliable source for her not being in HSM3. Tabercil 21:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * But is there a reliable source that says she will be in HSM3? IMO, the filmography should not contain HSM3 since HSM3 itself has not even been reliably confirmed. Dh993 16:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

interwiki
Please add he:ונסה אן הדג'נס, thanks. Avihu 17:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. --- RockMFR 18:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Vanessa Hudgens will definately be in HSM3, she has officially signed the contract along with Ashley Tisdale and Zac Efron. Disney has given Vanessa Hudgens another chance. She will be in High School Musical 3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.90.49.179 (talk) 22:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Errors on page
I have noticed that there are some chart position errors on the page. "We're All in This Together" did not chart at #4 in the UK, it only charted at #40 (there is proof of this on EveryHit.com, which keeps an accurate record of all songs over the years that have made the top 40 of the UK Singles Chart. Secondly, "Say OK" never charted in Australia, so a &mdash; should appear where the AUS column intersects with it, and I am pretty sure it never charted in New Zealand either. I believe this because I don't think around 10 months after it was released in the U.S. it will chart or be released here, nor in a lesser market, such as New Zealand. Also, there is apparent proof that "Say OK" charted at #124 on the UK Singles Chart here; that link is also provided on the "Say OK" page. Third and finally, "What Time Is It?" charted at #20 in Australia recently; and the "You Are the Music in Me" link, as well as all other High School Musical and High School Musical 2 songs' links should be removed (except "Breaking Free", "What Time Is It?" and "I Don't Dance"), as they all only redirect back to either High School Musical (soundtrack) and High School Musical 2 (soundtrack), and any attempt to create an article for the various songs is usually heavily debated and usually always ends up deleted. Thanks alot. User:Ss112 05:19, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Another incorrect item on this page: it says "nude photos". There is only one nude photo, and the cited sources report this as such. This is a WP:BLP issue and should be corrected immediately. Chubbles 02:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

The article protection has been dropped to semi, so you can make the chart changes yourself now. I've gone ahead and changed the nude photo thing. --- RockMFR 18:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Vanessa is not with Zac any more
Under 'personal' it says that Hudgens is dating Zac Efron. They split up recently. (LizParker 15:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC))
 * The article protection has been dropped to semi-protection, so you can make this change. I'm having trouble finding a good source for this. --- RockMFR 18:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

i beg to differ  look at timestamp 8 hours ago —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.129.220.188 (talk) 22:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Little iffy on using a YouTube link (primarily for copyright reasons). WAVY 10 Fan 23:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Copyrighted with no permission video on YouTube - nope, can't use as a reference in the article by Wiki prohibition on contributory copyright infringement. Shouldn't be here either for same reason. WP:COPYRIGHT so I removed the link. Might check TMZ.com for the same video as that is the copyright holder. --NrDg 23:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Zac and Vanessa are STILL together! Crikey! Lay off people! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.23.162 (talk) 04:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

"Hudgens became the spokesperson for Neutrogena."
More accurate to say "became a spokesperson". 121.216.122.41 10:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC) ya i know i saw it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.165.204.222 (talk) 22:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Second Album Confirmed?
Does it mean that she is coming out with a second album cause there are no sources for it so I was just wondering if it was true or not? Headstrong 345 (talk) 03:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC)Headstrong 345

yes this is true march 3 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.30.225 (talk) 00:58, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Heritage
Hector Ramos and Opinoso are involved in an edit war involving Vanessa's heritage. Please DO NOT MAKE ANY MORE REVERTS and continue the discussion here. If anyone makes any more reverts, they will be reported for violation of the 3RR. Once we have came to a consensus, we will change the article and keep it that way. -- Dan Leveille TALK 16:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Entry for September 13, 2007 This pic is from my myspace here it is!add me there too!!!!
 * Saturday December 29, 2007 - 02:34pm (PST) Permanent Link | 0 Comments

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=104...

I was born to Greg and Gina Hudgens on December 14, 1988. i grew up in Salinas, California with my little sister, Stella,who is also an actress. i am Irish and Native American descent on my father's side and of Filipino, Latin and Chinese descent on my mother's.i started my career when my friend couldn't go to an audition for a commercial and asked if i could go. i began getting several theater roles which included leads in: Evita, Carousel, The Wizard of Oz, The King & I, The Music Man, Cinderella, and d**n Yankees and more. From then on i started to get roles in movies such as, 'Thirteen' and 'Thunderbirds'. She also began appearing in several television shows such as "Quintuplets", "Brothers Garcia", and etc. In 2005, my carrer launched when i auditioned and stole the role for Disney Channels Original Movie 'High School Musical' of sweet and brainy "Gabriella Montez". Since then i have Guest Starred in many other television shows, working with some of her other co-stars in "The Suite Life of Zack & Cody" & also was in one episode of "Drake & Josh". In June 2006, i signed my record deal with Hollywood Records, 'High School Musical 2' is in the works and is hoping for a January 2007 release in which i will re-star as Gabriella Montez. .

Birth name: Vanessa Anne Hudgens Nickname: Nessa, V Height: 5' 4" (1.63 m) Birth Date: 14th December 1988 Trade mark: Long dark hair In both my first two films Thirteen and Thunderbirds i appeared alongside Brady Corbet. Parents: Greg Hudgens and Gina Guangco. my father is Caucasian, my mother is Filipina. Ethnicities: Filipino, Chinese, and Puerto Rican (from my mother); Irish and American Indian (from my father). my musical theater roles include leads in: Evita, Carousel, The Wizard of Oz, The King & I, The Music Man, Cinderella, d**n Yankees, among others. im a fan of the late Natalie Wood. i love horror movies im a Saggitarius. i have guest starred in both 'drake and Josh" on Nickelodeon, and 'the suite life of Zack and Cody' on disney channel. For the audition in high school musical,i sang "Angels" by Jessica Simpson.

i have a Toy Poodle named Shadow, Three turtles, Fish, And a Bunny.

i can't whistle! Is Home-Schooled i used to live in Oregon. i admit being a "Shop-A-Holic". I am filming for 'High School Musical 2'. im allergic to pepper! im good friends with Ashley Tisdale and Miley Cyrus. fav color is Red. fav type of music is Rock. fav food is Chocolate & Sushi. fav season is Summer fav time of day is the Night fav animal is the Cheetah. fav subject is Science. fav HSM scene is when we danced "We're All In This Together" -- 17:10, 22 January 2008 Hector Ramos


 * Vanessa has no Puerto Rican heritage. There are no sources about it. If some site says she is Puerto Rican, this source is a lie.


 * How can she have Puerto Rican ancestry on her mother's side? Her mother was born in PHILIPINAS. Nobody from Puerto Rico immigrated to Philipinas.


 * Hector Ramos claims that Hudgens's mother has Puerto Rican ancestry. Her mother is of Filipino, Spanish and Chinese ancestry.


 * If Vanessa had any Puerto Rican ancestry, one of her grandparents should be Puerto Rican. There are no sources saying any of her grandparents was Puerto Rican.


 * By the way, her grandparents were probably born in the 1920s. What would a Puerto Rican be doing in Philipinas in 1920? Puerto Ricans started to immigrate in the 1960s, most all of them to the Unites States.


 * Nobody left Puerto Rico in 1920 to live in Philipinas. This is insane. Any History book confirms that.


 * Hector Ramos is just trying to claim a fake Puerto Rican heritage to Vanessa, because he probably is from Puerto Rico and wants Vanessa to be like him.


 * It's like claiming Oprah Winfrey is of Japanese heritage. It is just pathetic. Opinoso (talk) 18:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I suggest returning the section to the way it read at the end of last year. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vanessa_Anne_Hudgens&oldid=181299100 This was stable and included an actual quote for self identification. This ethnic stuff is irrelevant (doesn't impact her or her career in any way) mostly but if it must be in the article at least go by the subjects self identification and don't try to trace back every great^n grandparents birth location. --NrDg 18:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, Vanessa quote about her own ancestry is perfect. I'm just here because the guy was trying to claim she is Puerto Rican; since this is an Enciclopedya, WRONG information should not stay. Opinoso (talk) 21:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

One of the parties to this edit dispute, Hector Ramos, is not participating in this discussion but continues to add unsupported information that directly conflicts with a self-identifying quote from Hudgens. In addition he is pushing his edit by removing the reference and the quote as it is conflicting with the point-of-view that he is trying to get in the article. I would say a direct quote from the subject is the strongest proof possible for the edit made by Opinoso and suggest that we support that version against removal of that information. I consider removal of the referenced quote and the addition of conflicting information disruptive editing. --NrDg 04:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I found the on topic entry by Hector Ramos and moved it to this section. Only addition is that the reference he is using is a myspace entry that is not verified to be Hudgens and is likely a poser. Not a trusted source. --NrDg 05:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Either remove the information altogether or go with information that is from a reliable source. So far I haven't seen a source for the puerto rican part but Opinoso's info seems to have a valid source. If Hector Ramos removes the source information again and replaces it with unsourced info, give him a final warning on his talk page. If he continues to do it after that, taking it to WP:ANI and let the admins handle him. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 05:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Removal was tried and was unstable, people seem so want this and as long as it is properly supported is OK. WP:BLP issue otherwise as many people find misstating their ethnicity to be derogatory so have to get it right by WP:BLP rules if included. --NrDg 14:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

See also for previous discussion on this issue and what consensus on this issue was. --NrDg 14:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * just because she said that she's Spanish doesn't mean that she's from spain other countries speak Spanish like Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Cubans, Mexicans etc. and she's Puerto Rican, Filipino, Chinese, Irish, Native American. -- 16:44, 25 January 2008 Hector Ramos
 * We don't do original research in Wikipedia. See WP:OR. We go with what some reliable source concluded and we can verify. We have a well referenced quote from Hudgens herself. We can't second guess her own statement about what she considers herself. A lot of people think misidentifying ethic identity as being derogatory so it is always best to go with what people consider themselves unless you have extremely good proof that they are wrong. --NrDg 17:12, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I restored the text (father American - Irish and Native - mother Filipino - Spanish/Chinese/Filipino). I don't see why there should be a direct quote taking up extra space; you could have such a quote from a celebrity about their ethnicity for almost every major actor. Why this one? All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 20:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Because it is contentious and nothing is more authoritative than a direct quote from from the person them self. We need nothing more than that and references to the ethnicity of her parents are about them (non notable people) not her. A direct quote cuts to the chase, so to speak, and is irrefutable as stated. This also heads off another round of ethnicity debates as seen above. Please reconsider your removal of the quote. --NrDg 20:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see how Vanessa Hudgens' ancestry is any more contentious than her birthplace, her parents' names, or her sister's name. It is pretty well accepted that her father is American, her mother Filipino, her father's ancestry Irish-Native American, and her mother's Spanish-Chinese-Filipino. It's stated in almost every piece or website that goes over her ancestry. There are no differing versions of this on the internet. Just because a single Wikipedia editor claims that her background is something else doesn't mean this view has any life out there or makes this information debateable or disputed. This quote is also unhelpful because the article should state the specifics (which of her parents has which ancestry), something the quote doesn't do. QUOTE states that quotes should be used if the quote is "a unique phrase or term from someone’s speech or writing" (which this isn't) or "dealing with a potentially controversial statement" (and there's no evidence that it's potentially controversial, outside of one Wikipedia editor who is now blocked, and certainly not compared to the examples used in that section of WP:QUOTE). All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 13:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's focus on "dealing with a potentially controversial statement". This issue has come up at least twice in the last year and the stable solution that stopped the wiki controversy was the quote from Hudgens. The ethnicity of her parents is an irrelevancy. They are not notable so their individual ethnicity adds nothing to the article. Why does it matter which parent's genealogical ethnic branch lead to what Hudgens considers herself? The addition of the quote was a consensus compromise. Ethnicity IS more contentious than hard verifiable facts about names and places because it is basically a subjective judgment of what ancestors to use as definers. To many people being misclassified is an insult and they will class it as derogatory. Too many editor with a POV to grind want to claim famous people as one of their own. If we have a quote from the person directly, all debate about ethnicity is essentially over. --NrDg 19:25, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * "The ethnicity of her parents is an irrelevancy. They are not notable so their individual ethnicity adds nothing to the article. " - I don't see the validity of that statement. It's actually quite relevant that her father is American and her mother is, in fact, an immigrant from a different country, who was raised in that country and speaks the language, and so on. And the quote doesn't give you that information. This is a whole other matter, in terms of the cultural and ethnic influence on Hudgens, than if her parents were simply both Americans, both with a batch of ethnicities in their family tree. The quote is a simple statment of fact, exactly the same as a line in the article. It can't be re-written (as a sentence) in any POV way. I suppose the ethnicity of certain celebrities is contentious, but I just don't see it with Hudgens. Where is the proof that Hudgens' ethnicity is contentious? I mean, proof like several websites or news reports giving a conflicting report on her background that would create some kind of confusion about it. Unless you're saying that ethnicity in general is contentious, and thus every mention of ethnicity on Wikipedia should be replaced with a quote, which would probably seem quite odd. Oh, and as for editors trying to claim some celebrity as their own - a quote won't stop them. I've seen editors of that nature routinely change quotes to add and/or subtract whatever parts they do/don't like. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 17:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Modifying a direct quote is vandalism if done after being warned, same as modifying any well referenced fact to go against the reference, and can be treated as such. The fact that her father is American by birth and her mother was an immigrant from the Philippines IS relevant info, the sub ethnicities past that are not. I doubt that anyone has validated the finer details about her parents past passing through statements made by her parents or Hudgens herself. Nationality and immigrant status are objective facts. What people consider themselves, and that includes her parents, is a subjective choice of which ancestors to count. The quote IS a simple statement of fact from a primary source, which is why it is irrefutable. Yes, I believe that every mention of ethnicity is potentially contentious and I do believe, that if a quotes exists, every mention of ethnicity SHOULD be replaced by a quote or at least use the quote as a primary source reference for information in the article. In this particular case I would be OK with leaving the section as you wrote it, but if you remove the actual quote add a reference to it and have the quote as a cite quote.--NrDg 16:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea. I'll try it that way. I hope I did it correctly / that's what you meant. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 21:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That looks fine. It gets the quote out of the flow of text, but it is still in the article as a reference. It can probably be formatted without the breaks though as others may not like how it appears in the reference section.--NrDg 21:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * All Hallow&#39;s Wraith, stop erasing her quote in the article. Nobody here agreed with you. You are a minority.


 * Many people were erasing and changing Hudgens ethnicity. There was a guy claiming she was Puerto Rican.


 * A quote is the best way to stop them trying to claim something she isn't. Opinoso (talk) 15:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * All Hallow's Wraith is making a good faith attempt to improve the article and is a very experienced editor who I trust to do the right thing. I put a lot of weight on his opinion and hope we can come to a compromise that satisfies all our concerns. --NrDg 16:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Eurasian
Since she's Eurasian, shouldn't she be put on the list of Eurasians?--69.234.208.72 (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Those banners
the second two seem a little un-encyclopedic. are they real wiki standards?they cant be. the one has the code written on the page! these should be removed.♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 23:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

New Changes
I don't like the new changes added just recently today. If people want to know more about Gabriella's story in HSM, they should go to that article and not here on Vanessa's article. Jedi Striker 9:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

____________I think this page should be updated________ Vanessa hudgens have won several awards and I wish somebody would post it up. She was in people magazines 100 most beautiful and she was also voted as 12 in Maxim's 100 most beautiful women. here are the links for those two. (http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,20196426_13,00.html) (http://www.maxim.com/Girls/12Vanessahudgens/slideshow/24823/2463.aspx) I would post these things but for some reason it won't let me. so whoever can please if you could post the awards that she has won. Thanks! Greatly appreciated.

Name in lead
I removed the "simply known as" since this is her name. If she is know by something different, that would make sense. Please see MOSBIO and all other bios out there. Thank you. --nyc171 (talk) 18:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT
Which one of the admins is the Vanessa Hudgens agent? Now I am completely and utterly sure that at one point in time citations for photo scandal did not link to unrelated sites and furthermore....

Holy shit you guys work fast. --Kalmykia tour 1987 (talk) 00:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2014
Vanessa hudgens is a model and has modeled prevoisly for candies, neutrogena and is now modeling for bongo jeans www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Vanessa-Hudgens-strips-underwear-plays-domes...‎

Sabahxx (talk) 18:21, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 19:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2014
82.30.28.143 (talk) 19:50, 2 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Done, technically: no change was requested, so no change was made. —C.Fred (talk) 20:01, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 December 2014
Vanessa Hudgens turned 26 yesterday.

67.224.72.135 (talk) 00:51, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Technically, no: she turned 26 on the 14th. Regardless, that's what the article shows (though the page might have needed to be purged to update the template). —C.Fred (talk) 01:45, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2015
Vanessa Hudgens Vanessa Hudgens 15, 2012.jpg Hudgens at the Sydney premiere of Journey 2: The Mysterious Island in January 2012 Born	Vanessa Anne Hudgens December 14, 1988 (age 26) Salinas, California, United States Nickname Queen Of Coachella Occupation Actress singer Years active	2002–present Musical career Genres Pop dance R&B Instruments	Vocals Labels	Hollywood Website vanessahudgens.tumblr.com

178.117.109.106 (talk) 15:07, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Jamietw (talk) 15:34, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Mention of the 2014 photographs
While I agree with the general policy of not including said details in other articles, this one already has a section about unlwafully published pictures of her. Shouldn't they be mentioned there? 201.190.31.131 (talk) 05:30, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: No damage came to her career out of the 2014 leak and the less we rehash that garbage story on BLP's, the better; we're not going to make the text of this article incredibly prejudicial to her photos being leaked out.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 18:39, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Vanessa isn't 27 anymore
Yesterday, (14th December 2016), Vanessa turned 28 but it still says that she's 27. It needs to be edited. Lisacrawshaw (talk) 22:52, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It should age it up automatically without an issue; I'm showing that it says 28. You may have to tap F5 or Refresh to help it along because your local webpage cache might still be holding an earlier version pre-birthday.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:11, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

More leaked photos
In 2014, more photos of Vanessa leaked on Reddit during “The Fappening” Chris2 alberts (talk) 17:22, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

New projects
The filming just wrapped of a movie she’s in called “Dog Days” also starring Nina Dobrev.

She was also in an episode of Running Wild with Bear Grylls appearing as herself (s04-e01). Chris2 alberts (talk) 18:08, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. Prefall  20:58, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Proposed Edits.
Hi, For the Awards and Nominations section, the chart is a bit of a mess. The column for Category, three of the boxes are inconsistent with the rest. It also has an unlabeled column that seem to be not used for anything.

Thanks, DZL (talk) 07:10, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Cleaned up the formatting. Pre  fall  07:54, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on December 5th, 2019
Please change the last sentence of the second paragraph from


 * "She has had a role in two of Fox's live musical productions: Rizzo in Grease: Live in 2016, and Maureen Johnson in Rent: Live in 2019."

to


 * "She has had roles in two of Fox's live musical productions: Rizzo in Grease: Live in 2016, and Maureen Johnson in Rent: Live in 2019."

This might be accurate, if still a little confusing, had she played the same character in both movies but she didn't. "A role" is singular but Rizzo and Maureen Johnson are two distinct roles. 2600:1700:B7A1:9A30:7:986D:4329:3A9 (talk) 18:10, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Pre  fall  18:16, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Remove Advert Header
Anyone opposed to my doing so? Sucker for All (talk) 01:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2021
2601:541:4580:96F0:3433:BC7F:2663:FAD7 (talk) 08:38, 1 April 2021 (UTC) Cole Tucker DOES NOT PLAY FOR THE PITTSBURGH PIRATES
 * On Sunday, the 32-year-old actress made her relationship with the Pittsburgh Pirates outfielder, 24, you win, you just made me look up a New York Post story about Vanessa Hudgens' boyfriend. Article matches the sources. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

PRINCESS SWITCH
What year did the first instalment come out on Netflix? Let's confirm.

73.75.70.104 (talk) 19:21, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Father
What date was he born? 73.75.70.104 (talk) 19:22, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2022
Change “Pittsburgh Pirates Shortstop” to “Former Pittsburgh Pirates Shortstop” as Cole Tucker was Designated for Assignment today 5/30. 2600:1017:B40D:C057:4574:FC52:9BD8:4F29 (talk) 19:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Done Also made into a more generic line so it doesn't have to be updated from team-to-team.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 19:46, 30 May 2022 (UTC)