Talk:Vanilla planifolia

Info about the nomenclature....
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+Vanilla+planifolia+tahitensis&btnG=Search --222.64.211.128 (talk) 23:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Are V. planifolia and V. tahitensis the same plant....???
See the above message and the following http://www.tga.gov.au/docs/pdf/aan/aanherb3.pdf --222.64.211.128 (talk) 23:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I know this a very old question, but POWO now provides an easy answer. They are not the same. And indeed POWO lists V. tahitensis as a hybrid, rather than a species. https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:661286-1 MtBotany (talk) 04:04, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Vanilla vine
The main article would be improved if there were a couple paragraphs on raising vanilla, and whether this kind of vine requires a particular potting soil, and whether it has a significant place in garden shops in the US (and elsewhere across the world). 216.99.198.20 (talk) 02:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

What does this mean ?
"Hand pollinators can pollinate about 1,000." Looks like someone stopped in mid-sentence - unless the hand pollinators die after 1000 ;) 107.10.15.185 (talk) 05:43, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, and since no ref was provided I've removed it. Hamamelis (talk) 17:59, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Distribution: Central America and West Indies or North America AND Central America?
This article states that V. planifolia is native to Mexico, but distribution is listed as Central America and the West Indies. Mexico is in North America, however, so should this be changed?

Also, I have seen sources that say V. planifolia is native to Southeastern Mexico and Guatemala but not the West Indies or Florida, so perhaps this needs clarification. Does distribution mean 'native range', or does it simply refer to where the plant is known to grow anywhere in the world? http://bioweb.uwlax.edu/bio203/s2009/ruud_kirs/Habitat%20-%20Geography.htm http://ntbg.org/plants/plant_details.php?plantid=11345 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scvirginia (talk • contribs) 17:12, 8 January 2015 (UTC)


 * There is disagreement about the natural range of V. planifolia. My inclination is to go with the Red List assessment of just Mexico and Belize in the short version, but to also talk about the more extensive natural range published by POWO. MtBotany (talk) 04:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

V. pompona = V. planifolia?
If pompona is simply an old synonym for planifolia, then this article and other Vanilla genus articles need to be updated; it seems the taxobox here is correct but the text is not consistent with it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:43, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Wrong species in picture?
An anonymous IP (67.87.17.191) wrote on the article page "This picture is NOT V planifolia, it is Vanilla pompona". Moved it to here. Hamamelis (talk) 13:15, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Ecology, distribution and pollination
I'm working on adding information about the distribution and pollination of V. planifolia. I've got two papers as sources for this species thanks to Dr. Karremans, and a third about Vanilla pompona.

"First evidence for multimodal animal seed dispersal in orchids". Current Biology. 33 (2): 364–371.e3. doi:10.1016/j.cub.2022.11.041. "Vanilla distribution modeling for conservation and sustainable cultivation in a joint land sparing/sharing concept". Ecosphere 11(3):e03056. doi:10.1002/ecs2.3056

I will, eventually, find more good sources but if anyone has suggestions they are appreciated. MtBotany (talk) 17:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

I think I have my best possible source and it concurs with POWO. As such I've updated the page with a note that it was previously believed to be only native to Mexico and Belize. It might still be that it was spread by humans but long enough ago to have developed genetic diversity in these other areas like Central America and Brazil. MtBotany (talk) 20:42, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Cultivation or Horticulture
I will, as time and reliable sources permit, add a section on cultivation/horticulture to move all the scattered information into with more and better citations. Still looking for a really solid source about wild pollination and a more detailed description of various plant structures. MtBotany (talk) 04:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Fruit
In the Fruit section, it says that mature plants are generally 3m/10ft long. Length has nothing to do with maturity, and its a common myth that says specifically that vanilla needs to grow to 3m/10ft to mature. The source 7 cited at the end of the Fruit section specifies that vanilla matures after 2-3 years. Specifying/differentiating is probably important or at least helpful. Sammyolsen10 (talk) 04:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)