Talk:Vanyel Ashkevron

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Withen
I'm not sure describing this guy as extremely homophobic is correct. He is a textbook homophobe however there are people in the series more extreme than him, like the Rethwellan nobility who in this trilogy would have declared war on Valdemar if Vanyel brought his spouse with him or the prince in Oathbreaker used a rumor that a princess was gay to justify killing her. As I doubt Withen ever entertained the thought of killing Vanyel because of Vanyel's sexuality, he should be described as homophobic with out any adjectives added.

Tydoni (talk) 17:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree. To be described as extreme one must actively pursue their homophobia. Withen strikes me more as someone who grew up in an environment that fostered homophobia, and he just never questioned it. Eventually he does show that he cares, and just has trouble fighting against his deep-seated beliefs. As drastic as the consequences of his actions were, I doubt he honestly thought could have predicted what happened. DragonWingXIII (talk) 05:46, 9 March 2011 (UTC)