Talk:Varagavank

Merge proposal
Shouldn't this article be merged with Monastery of Yedi Kilisa? Sardur (talk) 10:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh! I hadn't realized that article exists.. Yes, it should be merged.  Serouj (talk) 16:41, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And, needless to say, under "Varagavank", which is most used by specialists. Sardur (talk) 21:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Should not be merged, the historic and original Armenian name of this monastery is Varagavank.


 * Then it should be merged and renamed into Varagavank, if that is the best name. Regards, Kebeta (talk) 16:11, 23 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Support: Yedi Kilisa should be merged to Varangavank per Sardur. --  Ashot  ( talk ) 14:34, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: This article (Varagavank) should be merged into Monastery of Yedi Kilisa as 'Monastery of Yedi Kilisa' is older one. Than if necessary, 'Monastery of Yedi Kilisa' can be renamed to 'Varagavank' (if Varagavank is more appropriate). This way the history of the article and its creator are noted, while the article gets a proper name. You can ask some administrator for help with this. Regards, --Kebeta (talk) 15:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Armenian insider jokes?
"The monastery was composed of six churches, gavit, narthex, (nakhasrah), and other structures." Means WHAT? "Gavit" seems to mean narthex, so the 2 are actually 1, then comma-parantheses makes no sense, and nobody knows what "nakhasrah" means. The source (a Soviet encyclopaedia) is not available online. Arminden (talk) 08:48, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * , I'm a bit late to this (by coincidence, exactly two years) haven't checked if you have removed that word, but, "nakhasrah" is the Armenian word for "antechamber", a narthex could be by definition an antechamber leading to a church, that's why I think it was added back then, there is/was no need to keep that translation. - Kevo3 2 7 (talk) 12:17, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * , hi and thank you. I think I went ahead anyway, or somebody else has. Now we have "gavit (narthex)" in the text. Just to make sure: all three words mean the same thing: gavit & nakhasrah in Arm., narthex in Eng.? Gavit seems to have made it into English literature, nakhasrah hasn't. On a tangent: may I ping you if I come across more Armenia(n)-related questions? Thanks, Arminden (talk) 12:58, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * , they are close but not the same: gavit = narthex, they have exactly the same meaning in religious architecture. whereas nakhasrah is a general word for a small chamber that's proceeds the main chamber (antechamber), in this sense a church's nakhasrah/antechamber is specifically called a gavit , this is the more accurate amd and specific term. Off course, feel free to ping me whenever. - Kevo3 2 7 (talk) 13:11, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * , I got it, but what is essential here is that we describe the church correctly, i.e. if there's a porch or something else in front of the gavit/narthex that needs to be mentioned. I don't think there is in this case, but such extensions do exist in churches. Thank you very much, that's very kind, I do come across Armenian terms and topics where not all is clear to me. Cheers, Arminden (talk) 10:10, 16 August 2021 (UTC)