Talk:Vargas Era

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Alguém pode me dar fonte da celebração á miscigenação e cultura africana? Eu posso estar bêbado, mas eu acho que não teve isso ná época do getúlio.


 * Can someone translate that? Thanx 68.39.174.150 10:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Sure. Here is a translation:

"Can somebody give me a source for the celebration of racial mixing and African culture [in the Brazilian Estado Novo]? I might be out of it [literally, 'drunk'], but I think that wasn't yet around in the time of Getúlio Vargas."

Hope that helps. Diamantina 04:24, July 24, 2005 (UTC)


 * I can't so I have removed that section untill further notice. 68.39.174.238 19:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't speak Portuguese, so can someone track back the original source of the current edit of this page (dated 9 Jan 06) for possible copyvio? -- Robster2001 03:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


 * From what I can tell, it is a poor machine "translation" of the text directly cut and pasted from the Estado Novo article on the Portugese wiki, which was in turn directly cut and pasted in July 2004 from the Estado Novo section of the Getulio Vargas biography article of the Portuguese wiki, which in turn, for that section, looks like it was almost directly cut and pasted, with small modifications, from the original source, the Getulio Vargas biography page at the website of the Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV), in Brazil. See: http://www.cpdoc.fgv.br/nav_historia/htm/biografias/ev_bio_getuliovargas.htm  The Vargas article of the Portuguese wiki provides external links  to the FGV website.  Also, it seems that there has been some discussion of copyright issues on the talk page for that article, but it looks like that discussion was about the images in the article, not about the text.  -J. 142.169.152.79 04:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Should this be combined with: History of Brazil (1930-1945)? User:Ray Van De Walker

Estado Novo not true fascism
Estado Novo in Portugal or Brazil are not generally characterized by scholars as fascist. They share some common elements and certainly were inspired in part by aspects of fascism but even parts of the New Deal had inspiration from fascist policies. There is a "taxonomical” difficulty in characterizing it as fascism; it is not fascism but at most a “para-fascism”. It is true of both Brazil and Portugal. They are not quite fascist, hence I am removing the template. Mamalujo 18:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

POV?
As I read this, I feel as though the writers were either attempting to glorify Vargas by comparing him to Roosevelt, or demonizing Roosevelt by comparing him to a dictator. Should this article be NPOV flagged?--Ahuja91 (talk) 07:13, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Vargas is frequently compared to Roosevelt in English-language literature, actually. Eladynnus (talk) 01:31, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Second and Third Republic
Hi, i'm a brazilian editor, and there is some mistakes. The Vargas Era is divided into the Second Republic and the Third Republic, the second being a provisional government, and the third one being a dictatorship. Please fix this.--Arthur Heberle (talk) 18:53, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Fascist state?
I want to add Vargas Era to Category:Fascist state because the policy of the Vargas regime was very fascistic nationalist and corporatist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcisawesomeguy (talk • contribs) 05:11, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Well, that’s your personal opinion and subjective point of view. Provide reliable sources to back up your belief. --49.181.167.102 (talk) 23:09, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Splitting proposal
I propose that the sections concerning the Second Brazilian Republic and the Third Brazilian Republic be split into two separate pages titled Second Brazilian Republic and Third Brazilian Republic, respectively. At the moment, they both redirect to this page.

The Portuguese Wikipedia contains separate articles for each as well as the Vargas Era article. Furthermore, the two eras have remarkable differences. While both are in the broader range of the Vargas Era and the impact of Getúlio Vargas, the Second Republic was a representative democracy for half the time, and the Estado Novo was, unarguably, a dictatorship. Also, the article only describes the rise of Vargas politically (Rise of Getúlio Vargas) and virtually does not describe the Revolution of 1930 nor the Brazilian Military Junta of 1930, the events that singlehandedly led to the formation of the Second Brazilian Republic and, subsequently, the Vargas Era. These may be considered issues for the article itself to improve upon, but the extra information about the background and decline of the two separate periods would be better suited in their own articles.

Finally, it's hard to mashup both of the periods in one article if one already includes two "periods" within itself (Second Republic). FredModulars (talk) 02:25, 2 May 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅ @FredModulars In Brazil the Second and the Third Republics are considered separate regimes, while the Era Vargas is more of a concept from historiography. I was surprised to see that this Wikipedia has no articles for the two republics. Edmundo Soares (talk) 06:25, 18 June 2021 (UTC)