Talk:Velaiilla Pattadhari/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs) 10:29, 17 November 2014 (UTC) Reviewer: Kailash29792 (talk) 06:01, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Will review later in the week.♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:29, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Legacy
 * "Poriyaalan, which was produced by Vetrimaaran's A Grassroot Film Company, also had similarities with the film." -source doesn't say that. In fact somebody denies it.♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:13, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

I removed the entire part of Poriyaalan. Ssven2 (talk) 07:09, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * As Blofeld has resigned from the review, I will take on.... from tomorrow. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:11, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh good Ssven2 (talk) 15:27, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I just find contemporary Indian movies difficult to be enthusiastic about in assessing with GA quality. I'm never keen on cast sections with that sort of commentary either, it belongs in production. Not that I'm discrediting your hard work on it of course, but it's not the sort of film I'm happy reviewing admittedly and is best done by somebody into such films I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:35, 22 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes Blofeld, I too don't often look forward to make 21st century Indian movies GA's due to lack of interest, and they don't look historically significant. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:45, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

✅ expanded it to three sections. Ssven2 (talk) 04:54, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ actors' names removed. Ssven2 (talk) 04:54, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Lead
 * Can you try expanding it to three sections? Kailash29792 (talk) 11:45, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Plot
 * The actors names can be wikilinked, or just removed. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:45, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

✅ as asked. Ssven2 (talk) 05:15, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Cast
 * commentatory can be moved to production under the level 3 section "casting". Kailash29792 (talk) 11:45, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Impressive. Now how about reducing the character descriptions as much as possible? This is optional, but I am only asking so that it does not give away spoilers. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:01, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

✅ as asked Ssven2 (talk) 06:29, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ replaced the reference. Ssven2 (talk) 15:18, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I noticed that the ref next to Cell Murugan does not mention him as having acted in VIP. Can you please find an alternative? Kailash29792 (talk) 13:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

✅ as asked. Ssven2 (talk) 07:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ written Velaiyilla Pattathari. Ssven2 (talk) 07:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ as asked. Ssven2 (talk) 07:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ as asked. Ssven2 (talk) 07:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Production
 * Doesn't "came up with" sound idiomatic and unencyclopedic? Please try writing it more literally. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "The title of the film was unveiled on 15 August 2013" - mention the film's title. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It’s just a bond we share.”. - double full stops, I say remove the one outside the quote. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't say "Kamal", say "Haasan" (WP:SURNAME). Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

✅ as asked. Ssven2 (talk) 07:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ placed it in "Themes". The heading is now "Themes and influences". Ssven2 (talk) 08:45, 24 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ as asked. Ssven2 (talk) 07:48, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ written "criticised". written "He" instead of "The newspaper" with "He" referring to Srinivasa Ramanujam. Ssven2 (talk) 07:48, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ written "TOP 10 ALBUMS". Ssven2 (talk) 07:48, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Themes and influences
 * Would it be better to say "unemployed" than "jobless"? Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I see that one of the reviews in "Critical response" compares the hero and villain to David and Goliath respectively. Can you elaborate on that in this section? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:02, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Music
 * remove "veteran" as it seems to convey POV. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "Srinivasa Ramanujam of The Times of India gave 3 out of 5, saying that some of the songs sounded similar to Anirudh's previous compositions. The newspaper criticized..." write "criticised". And was it Srinivasa Ramanujam or the TOI who criticised? Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "The album remained in the top 10 list of Behindwoods.com for 30 weeks" - can you mention the list's full name to avoid ambiguity? Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

✅ He bought the film's TN theatrical rights but none of the references specify the amount. Ssven2 (talk) 07:55, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ re-written the sentence. Ssven2 (talk) 07:55, 23 November 2014 (UTC) ✅ as asked. Ssven2 (talk) 04:13, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Release
 * "Madhan of Escape Artists Motion Pictures acquired the theatrical rights of the film in Tamil Nadu" - for free? Or did he buy? Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "The movie was released in 350 screens in Tamil Nadu. The key regions were Chengalpattu (60), Kovai (65), Madurai (30), Trichy (30) and Salem (55)" - say "film" not "movie". And try to rephrase the second sentence for more clarity. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Can you replace "satellite rights" with something like television broadcast rights? Kailash29792 (talk) 16:24, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

✅ as asked. But The Hindu, Sify and The New Indian Express don't use star ratings. Ssven2 (talk) 04:16, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Critical response
 * Mention that each reviewer gave the film its star ratings, eg: "X gave the film X out of x stars". Kailash29792 (talk) 16:24, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Actually, both Tamilboxoffice1 and Bollywood Hungama get their box office collection data from Rentrak. So that is the main reason I used the source. If you want me to remove it, I'll do so by all means. Ssven2 (talk) 07:39, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Box office
 * Is this a reliable source? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:03, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If that is so, does Rentrak have any info on the BO collections of the film? If so, please use it. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:57, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I need to have an account on rentrak for that. But, I removed the references for Tamilboxoffice1 (both of them that were on the article page). Ssven2 (talk) 08:02, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * That's all Ssven. Now just settle the David/Goliath thingy, and this review is passed (you settle them today, then VIP becomes your second GA in 24 hours!) Kailash29792 (talk) 08:10, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

✅ replaced the David/Goliath thingy. Ssven2 (talk) 08:14, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I mean, M Suganth's (TOI writer) comparision of the hero and villain to David/Goliath should be preferably in "themes". Kailash29792 (talk) 08:22, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

✅ as asked Ssven2 (talk) 08:28, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * That's it Ssven, congratulations! As I Pass this, you have earned your second GA in 24 hours. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:50, 24 November 2014 (UTC)