Talk:Venera 13 and 14

Sound file
i wish i could hear the sound file. probably just boring wind, but still... - Omegatron 02:40, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)

Akaline grabbroids
what are melanocratic alkaline gabbroids?--Nowa 21:56, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I've partially wikified that, for the description of "melanocratic" see here: . Cmapm 01:02, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Edit history
From the edit history: 01:11, 8 November 2005 Cmapm (→Image restoration - why "restore"? Mitchell call this "processing")
 * Fair enough. I was using "restoration" in the sense of producing a better-quality version from the original materials. After all, isn't that what movie restorers do? But I'm not going to quibble over specific descriptions. The science is more important. And the pretty pictures, of course.Lee M 18:58, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't intend to hurt you. Treat this as my whim :) Best regards. Cmapm 20:49, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Pre-landing cooling
I hazily remember from something I read in the 80's that these Venera probes vented the last of their onboard fuel through radiators to super chill the landers to help them survive the surface temperature.
 * I can't quickly find now, how did they achieve this, but e.g. "Venera-13" charged lander's accumulators and at the same time, indeed, chilled instrument container to -10 degrees C, creating a "reserve of the cold". Cmapm 14:07, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Separate pages
I've created separate pages for Venera 13 and 14, but left this one as is, because the probes are related.Ricnun 13:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

merging
it seems like a good idea to merge these pages, since the articles right now are essentially copies of each other. unless someone thinks they were sufficiently different to have separate pages, i would suggest merging them back into one. 82.6.96.66 (talk) 00:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

also, the situation seems similar to that of Mariner 6 and 7. 82.6.96.66 (talk) 00:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)