Talk:VenetianPrincess

Gone with the Bot
image is removed.

BetacommandBot 21:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Article Name
VP's actual name is Jodie Rivera, which she has not disclosed in her videos, but which she has used in press and recording. Especially since she is now slated to appear in a television series, under her actual name, propose move to Jodie Rivera, making "VenetianPrincess" a redirect to there. 71.127.7.184 (talk) 14:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Per the manual of style, we should use the common name. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The LisaNova article is called Lisa Donovan. Let's be consistent. I think the real name should stick. --Hamsterlopithecus (talk) 11:07, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Removal of her real name
I see that some users don't want her personal name used in the article. While the relevant policy says "When the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated or has been intentionally concealed (such as in certain court cases), it is often preferable to omit it, especially when doing so does not result in a significant loss of context", I have a hard time justifying the removal of her name when it is readily published in newspapers and other sources. Plus, if she is using it in press releases to drum up publicity, it is harder to argue that it should thus be removed from her article. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:39, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I removed it because I was contacted by her as she asked me to remove it. Jodie Rivera is not her actual name, however she is mostly known by the alias "VenetianPrincess" so I deemed that the most appropriate title for the article. -- Journalist23 (talk) 10:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I respectfully disagree with that. If her name was a secret, it would be a different case altogether but it is not. Anyone using Google can find it in no time, so I'm afraid I fail to see any reason not to include it here. Yes, she is more known as Venetian Princess but virtually every article on somebody known under an alias include their real name. If there's any reason why that standard procedure should not be followed here, I'd like to see it outlined. I'll wait untill tomorrow for comments, then add the name. Cheers JdeJ (talk) 22:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, changing my mind here. I just found that she has even released a cd under her own name, which definitely is enough to make it clear that here name is not a secret nor even intended to be. I'm adding the name to the article now, and would hope to see it stay unless a very good reason is put forward to have it removed. Cheers JdeJ (talk) 22:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I see that the real name was removed. This article is pretty useless at this point in regards to information about the person. Its only talking about here career on YouTube. You could read her website or just go to YouTube for that. --Art8641 (talk) 14:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

-- Her legal name is Jodie-Amy, not Jodie. I was doing nothing but contributing accurate information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.100.227 (talk) 20:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Verified- her real name is Jodie with a middle name of Amy- if it matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.70.231 (talk) 01:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Maury tense?
Article says "A segment on The Maury Povich Show is set to air on February 27, 2008". So if it was to air, it has aired by now, yes? bd2412 T 10:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Youtube Asking Her To Stop Making Parodies of Real Songs?
I just read on her myspace blog that youtube asked her to stop making parodies of real songs, should this be mentioned here? AlicexCullen (talk) 13:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * This can't be! Listen to her Poker-Face parody "Outer Space"! It sounds completely different than the original! the melody of it is not stolen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.119.166.86 (talk) 18:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Lack of sources
Too many of the sources cited in this article are from the character's website or from youtube. This entire article will have to be revised. In fact the whole article is appalling. Liamfoley (talk) 23:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Agree. One of the three references that I checked did not confirm statement made (by Jay Leno). Another had been broken for months. Another was being used in a slightly misleading way: To claim that she was one of the first to do YouTube revenue sharing, whereas the reference only says that she is in a "new" program. (Whatever that means.) I'm sure some of these statements are justified, but there needs to be more care about using reliable, independent sources, see WP:SOURCES. Piano non troppo (talk) 02:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Italian-American
Is there any source to support the claim that she is of Italian ancestry? Otherwise the category should be removed. JdeJ (talk) 19:33, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Real name
It seems abundantly clear she is making little attempt to hide the fact she also goes by "Jodie Rivera". Her bio under VP here is the same as her bio as JR here. And she even links to a scan of a newspaper article connecting the two identities. There is no reason not to include her real name in the article. -- Zim Zala Bim talk  16:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, her real name is in the credits on a lot of her "VenetionPrincess" shorts. No effort to hide it at all. bd2412  T 07:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * For example in Lara Croft Saves YouTube video credits states jodie river62.78.251.32 (talk) 23:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Image of VenetianPrincess??
I have found a few images on her website, and was wondering if I could upload one? I can see that nobody has added any, so I thought it would be best to add one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chad Drives A Hummer (talk • contribs) 10:08, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * She seems fairly permissive in such matters. Getting one licenced by her under CC-BY(-SA) etc. may be possible. Someone should contact her first I think. - Estoy Aquí (t • c • e) 01:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Add an audio clip?
Could we maybe add an audio recording to the article? I notice that some of her videos on YouTube (e.g. the Womanizer parody - which she wrote, so has full control of) give permission to reuse with attribution. Obviously this is not the same as an explicit declaration of CC-BY-3.0 or similar, but I would think she would likely grant such a licence if asked. Anyone think it's worth it? - Estoy Aquí (t • c • e) 00:59, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Advertisement tag
First, the article has uncited, peacock WP:PEACOCK and other language that's unsuited to an encyclopedia: "her close family and friends call her Amy", "VenetianPrincess's resemblance to actress Angelina Jolie is a recurring topic in her video comments", "VP's version spoke for the masses".

Second, the references almost all either do not confirm article statements, are broken, or are considered unreliable by Wikipedia. Several of the references do not even remotely support what the article says. (7, 8, 9). One reference is Venetian Princess' own YouTube page, the article information is closely followed by "BUSINESS/PRESS INQUIRES CONTACT: Management@VPrincess.com". I.e., not a reliable reference. Reference is "page not found". This is another dead link:. IMDB is not considered a reliable reference for personal accomplishments.

In sum, the article references that work are mostly written by VenetianPrincess or people who represent her. The article is mostly a list of promotional accomplishments without valid references. The references that there are -- and one that was deleted a couple weeks ago -- misrepresent her accomplishments. It is, therefore, an extended advertisement. Piano non troppo (talk) 13:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. this article comes off like something her publicist wrote, and in poor prose also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.242.70.99 (talk) 06:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Popularity
In passing, it's peculiar to note that for someone who is purported to be a top Internet draw, that the traffic to this Wikipedia article is more similar to singing acts and novels from 40 years ago, than to current rock acts, movies or TV shows. Check. It would be appreciated if someone impartial could evaluate the weaknesses and strengths of this article, since it may be inflating the popularity of the subject. Piano non troppo (talk) 22:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the article seems to be thrown together by VenetianPrincess fans and is rather biased. However, her numbers on YouTube and frequent press appearances do prove her to be a top internet draw. New media personalities tend to receive lesser hits on WikiPedia than tradition media personalities. This should be no surprise, because their popularity was born on the internet so their viewership already has a readily available source of information on the persons. It seems from the user above's edits that he/she either has a personal grudge against "VenetianPrincess," or is not accustomed to the ways of new media, and it's recent success matching traditional media's.  In this article, many facts are backed up by reliable sources. For instance, she was one of the first in the group invited into the YouTube Revenue Share program. It states that in the two Boston articles, and they are dated back at the initial stages of the program, just as the wiki article states. However, I do agree that this article needs to be completely re-written, as many facts seem jumbled together, and some references need updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.75.251 (talk) 06:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Origin of Stage Name
Why does she call herself VenetianPrincess? Is she from Venice, California? Axeman (talk) 00:59, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Megan Fox
Has anyone seen her recent video? Transformers : Revenge of the Twitter Icons? I just noticed her resemblance to Megan Fox. Should we include that by her resemblance to Angelina Jolie and Miley Cyrus?

vp rocks!!!! xx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.116.246 (talk) 11:10, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Not notable?
Discuss. Is VenetianPrincess notable? I've seen more relevant articles than this get deleted by the moderators before, so is VenetianPrincess really that notable? 95.150.182.184 (talk) 00:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * One doesn't have to like or admire her, the fact that "She is the #1 most subscribed female on YouTube" (and has been for many months) puts her well within notability criteria. (If I was going to pick "most useless articles"? I'd go for mythical towns in computer games that are now rarely played, and may soon be effectively unplayable due to lack of workable compatible computers. A dozen static pictures that are the entirety of a "town"? This is notable, how?) Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 09:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Using mac
There are no references that she used Mac Pro and Final Cut —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.222.176.186 (talk) 18:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

No longer the #1 most subscribed woman on Youtube!
The reining seat of top most subscribed woman, no longer applys to Venitian Princess it does infact go to Michelle Phan. http://vidstatsx.com/collage/top-100 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.20.65.12 (talk) 08:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Delete
Not famous. Please delete this as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.30.83.90 (talk) 03:50, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

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