Talk:Venezuelan Beaver cheese

Is not this statement self-contradictory: "Venezuelan beavers apparently preferred, though Venezuela has no native beavers"? What this basically tells me is that this is just three words mentioned in a single Monty Python sketch, and not a real form of cheese at all. -R. fiend 14:08, 17 August 2005 (UTC)


 * The fact that it's fictional is already mentioned in the article. The statement you mention above, however, is in reference to "various recipes for Venezuelan Beaver cheese have in fact been published" - I haven't seen these recipes myself, but I can easily imagine them calling for the milk from Venezuelan beavers as described. Bryan 15:31, 17 August 2005 (UTC)


 * But there are no Venezuelan beavers, or if they are, the fact that they are Venezuelan is completely incidental, sort of like British ostriches. And while Wikipedia does have plenty of entries for fictional things, it generally does not them for things mentioned once in passing by a single person in a minor skit. Is everything ever mentioned by John Cleese automatically encyclopedic? -R. fiend 15:50, 17 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree that if Venezuelan beaver cheese had only been mentioned once in passing, it wouldn't merit an article. However, the article states that it has been referenced by people other than John Cleese.  I haven't seen the alleged published recipes (and I'd like to see an actual citation), but I do read Triangle and Robert, and can confirm that Venezuelan beaver cheese was involved in it. Factitious 01:55, August 18, 2005 (UTC)


 * Venezuelan beaver cheese is also mentioned in the game for Windows Computer Systems called: "Leisure Suit Larry 7" Published by "Sierra". In the part of the game where the character is located inside the kitchen of the ship, you have to look through all the food in there and when you find a gone bad fish wrapped in a magazine where you throw the fish away and put the magazine in the inventory and bring it back to read it, well it reads the recipe for "Venezuelan Beaver Cheese" where the ingredients are: "beaver milk from a Venezuelan beaver, a pinch of salt, rennet, lime juice substitute and a hint of mold". Also the back of the magazine has the recipe for Venezuelan beaver cheese and Kumquat quiche where the ingredients are beaver cheese and sliced kumquats. Then keeping looking through the things in the kitchen you will find a salt container. Heading to the top part of the ship there is a stand up comedy going on and in the back there is a little bar whose bartender is called "Johnson", then he presents you all the cocktails and different alcoholic drinks and you have to ask for the lime juice so then its the second ingredient of the recipe but not that fast, apparently he only gives out alcoholic drinks, well then Larry asks just for a Lime Ricky without the gin, the soda water, and the sugar, tricking Johnson into giving you just the Lime Juice. Then heading to the holds of the ship you find a little beaver environment in glass panes where there are a bunch of beavers and apparently the character milks the beaver in a cutout scene. When the image comes back in the beavers are all wasted and smoking cigarettes. Then there is the third ingredient for the beaver cheese that is the beaver milk. Larry goes back to his "suite" and finds mold in the shower and picks it up making up for the four ingredient for the cheese. Heading back to the top of the ship looking outside an animal shaped bush whose testicles are the remaining ingredient for the beaver cheese and kumquat quiche. Heading back to the kitchen of the ship you find the "CyberCheese 2000™" that is actually shaped like a toilet when you click on it the narrator reads its name aloud and tells to add ingredients and step way back then the character adds the ingredients one by one starting by the beaver milk, then the mold scraped from his shower wall, pinch of salt and thus lime juice. Then he "flushes" the toilet-shaped "CyberCheese2000™" and it pushes out a perfect wedge of Venezuelan Beaver Cheese. Taking it, putting it in the inventory then Larry uses it along with the kumquats cutting them in perfect slices in a cutting board then prepares the Kumquat quiche in a baking dish and puts it in the oven. When its baked he says that it really does not smell half bad and the narrator says that no, it smells all bad. Larry has to go to the "Captain's Cook-Off" Cooking Contest presenting his kumquat quiche firstly to Judge Julia where the narrator says: "Proudly you present your concoction for evaluation by the panel of the esteemed chefs" where she spits it nonstop and she says: "Thank you Mr. Laffer. This has nothing to distinguish from all the five hundred beaver cheese patiently endured all the essence and kumquat helps slightly" then it moves along to the other chefs and says: "I don't even want to bother tasting it" and the third one says: "wait, I might want to try it, no, nevermind". After the failure, Larry surely heads back to the kitchen and adds up a little pinch of "Orgasmic Powder" to spice it up a little and then goes back to the contest with the tuned up quiche presenting it again to the chefs where the narrator says: "Proudly, you present your special enhanced concoction for evaluation by the panel of the esteemed chefs". The chef Julia tries it first this time reacting in a different way by the enhanced recipe with a face of delight and then passes it over to the next chef reacting in excitement and lastly the third chef eats the rest and shows a face of happiness falling into the plate conveyor rolling around almost stunned by the recipe having a 3 in a row 100 score, the highest in the competition. Then in the ship's microphone sounds: "Your attention please, Larry Laffer has just won the cook-off with a record high score of three hundred points. Congratulations Larry, everyone wants a copy of that recipe". There are several video tutorials referring to that stage of the game. The game was released for MS-DOS and Windows in 1996. From official article page of the game in Wikipedia says that the game also shipped with a "CyberSniff 2000", a sheet of numbered scratch-and-sniff paper, corresponding to a number displayed on the screen at a certain location, so that the player can get a scent of what the area the player character is in smells like. Could be great that they could smell the cheese too. Also bringing a piece of text back from the article of the sketch in Wikipedia: "Venezuelan Beaver Cheese" is fictitious but, despite this, recipes for it have since been published.[citation needed] It has also been mentioned in Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (PC game), Sierra's computer adventure game Leisure Suit Larry 7, and in the webcomic Triangle and Robert. - Ignaciospisso 04:58, May 23, 2017 (UTC)

ChatGPT, when asked about Venezuelan Beaver Cheese, had this to say:
 * Venezuelan Beaver Cheese, also known as Queso de Castor, is a type of cheese that is made from the milk of the capybara, a large rodent native to South America. Capybara milk is similar to cow's milk in composition, and it is used to make a variety of dairy products, including cheese, yogurt, and ice cream. Venezuelan Beaver Cheese is a soft, semi-hard cheese that is white or pale yellow in color, and it has a mild, slightly sweet flavor. It is often used as a table cheese, and it is also used in cooking and as a topping for various dishes. Venezuelan Beaver Cheese is produced in several regions of Venezuela, including the state of Zulia, where capybaras are raised on farms for their meat and milk. The cheese is sold in markets and specialty food shops, and it is also exported to other countries.

I believe it is lying. Google turned up no instances of capybara milk being sold, let alone cheese, not even in Zulia. --Rpresser 17:05, 8 December 2022 (UTC)


 * - What, ChatGPT lying? You don't say! - Denimadept (talk) 16:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)