Talk:Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá

The cruise ship didn't flee
It stayed until everybody on the patrol boat was saved.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52151951 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SKhaksari (talk • contribs) 14:07, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

who-into-whom?
The BBC article referenced above has a photo of the cruise ship's bow. The damage visible there is not consistent with the Naiguatá ramming the cruise ship. The cruise ship's bow shows small nearly head-on compression damage at the tip, area compression damage and scraping to the starboard bow. This sounds more like (sorry, OR alert) the cruise ship moving at low speed; the Naiguatá getting into its way from the starboard side to stop or divert it, and possibly misjudging the inertia of the cruise ship; then the cruise ship - possibly while slowing down or trying to evade - slowly ramming the midsection of the Naiguatá. The cruise ship's overwater bow tip would have hit somewhere on the bridge deck, and its bulbus bow pierced the Naiguatá's hull. The hit to the bridge deck would have damaged the navy boat's ability to react or to use its radio, while there would have been heavy water ingress into the hull. Himbeerkuchen (talk) 12:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

"President of Venezuela" is ambiguous
The article refers to a statement by the "President of Venezuela". There are currently two people claiming that office (Maduro and Guaidó), so he should be referenced by name. (I feel like that should/might be the norm anyway.) -- 87.158.131.210 (talk) 17:05, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

4 MTU engines
The Navantia document refers to only 2 engines. Whoever added the 4-engine information had better add a source for it. I've templated it. XavierItzm (talk) 18:06, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Preliminary Statement on RCGS RESOLUTE incident - Columbia Cruise Services

 * https://www.columbia-cs.com/preliminary-statement-on-rcgs-resolute-incident/ --Jamez42 (talk) 04:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

move page
Should this page be moved to Naiguatá (patrol boat)? —valereee (talk) 21:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * support, current naming is unusual compared to the naming of other boats/ships.--ReyHahn (talk) 14:37, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose correct structure as detailed at WP:NCS Lyndaship (talk) 14:55, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * you probably have better knowledge on ship conventions, how does it work for this case?--ReyHahn (talk) 17:35, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * For naval ships without a prefix its Nationality, ship type, name and if there has been more than one ship by that name dabbed by pennant so the existing title is absolutely correct (as far as I know there has been no other Venezuelan patrol boat named Naiguatá). Lyndaship (talk) 18:18, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Bias
I just looked at the cruise ship's page, the incident page, and now this page, and althought the other two pages try to remain neutral and admit that not all the facts are in, this page is really biased towards the venezualn ship ramming the cruise ship. StarHOG (Talk) 15:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Evidence
Is there any evidence, that the warship rams the civilian ship and not vice-versa. (And a Newspaperarticle is not a evidence.) --2A02:8389:2181:A400:8C2E:89C9:A6B7:7C08 (talk) 16:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Has anybody claimed the opposite? --ReyHahn (talk) 18:42, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Newspaper articles are evidence.--Creoda (talk) 13:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)