Talk:Venu Govindaraju

Requested move 16 February 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. The Dissident Aggressor 20:25, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Venugopal Govindaraju → Venu Govindaraju – Dr. Govindaraju's proper name is 'Venu Govindaraju'. 'Venugopal Govindaraju' should be the redirect and 'Venu Govindaraju' should be the name of the main article. The functionality of these two pages should be swapped. Esobczak (talk) 21:23, 16 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Disputed content
Citations have been added and so I've removed the disputed and unreliable sources warnings for this page. If there are any specific items that are out of place or statements that lack citation please mark them. Esobczak (talk) 22:41, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Publicity page
This page needs a lot of work. If it was written by his publicist, it couldn't have been more puffy. I suspect it's loaded with copy/paste issues as well. Requesting help cleaning this up. The Dissident Aggressor 20:27, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Still reads like a press release
That page is loaded with puffery, self-references and repetition. Please remember that if you are employed by the same organization, you have additional responsibilities for appearing neutral. The length of the page, as a result, is too long. As an example: here are the sizes of the pages (in bytes) of some of the top professors in the same field (and Knuth also thrown in for comparison):
 * 1) Patrick Winston:   4173
 * 2) Tom Mitchell:  6989
 * 3) Peter Norvig: 7164
 * 4) Michael Jordan: 7663
 * 5) Geoffrey Hinton: 7717
 * 6) Leslie Valiant: 8259
 * 7) Yann LeCun: 8680
 * 8) Andrew Ng: 9306
 * 9) Ken Thompson: 18382
 * 10) Donald Knuth: 35303

and Venu Govindaraju? 44523! Beats even Donald Knuth!

I will make a sample edit to illustrate the problem. --ADrakken (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your comments and examples. I've removed the overly detailed press-release language and attempted to summarize the content down to a brief description, which has shorted the article considerably. Esobczak (talk) 21:26, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest
User:Esobczak is employed by CEDAR, of which the subject of this article is the associate director. This puts the user in a direct conflict-of-interest position. There are claims being made in this article which do not have any independent sources. For example:
 * Govindaraju's work in handwriting recognition[22][23] was significant in the first handwritten address interpretation system used by the United States Postal Service (USPS)

There is no reference cited for this grand claim. This goes against Wikipedia's rules and ToS. And this article is littered with such claims.

--ADrakken (talk) 20:13, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I've cleaned a bunch of this material up. The Dissident Aggressor 20:29, 6 May 2015 (UTC)