Talk:Verdun Maple Leafs (ice hockey)

NHL alumni for Senior Verdun Maple Leafs

 * Rollie Paulhus - 1924-25 MCHL
 * Rene Boileau - 1933-34 MCHL
 * Jean Bourcier - 1933-39 MCHL, 1940-41 QSHL
 * George Brown - 1934-36 MCHL
 * Fern Majeau § - 1934-37 MCHL
 * Maurice Croghan § - 1935-36 MCHL
 * Conrad Bourcier § - 1935-39 MCHL, 1940-41 QSHL
 * Les Ramsay § - 1936-42 QSHL
 * Albert "Battleship" Leduc - 1937-38 QSHL
 * Connie Dion § - 1937-38 QSHL
 * Claude Bourque - 1937-38 MCHL, 1938-39 QSHL
 * Frank Eddolls § - 1937-39 QSHL
 * Bill Meronek - 1937-39 QSHL
 * Bill Summerhill - 1937-38 MCHL
 * Don Willson - 1937-38 QSHL
 * Ernie Laforce - 1938-39, 1940-41 QSHL
 * Paul Bibeault § - 1938-40 QSHL
 * Hank Damore - 1938-39 QSHL
 * Alex Smart - 1938-40 MCHL
 * Bob Fillion § - 1939-40 QSHL
 * Maurice Richard § - 1939-40 QSHL
 * Moe White § - 1939-40 QSHL
 * Mel Read § - 1940-41 QSHL

§ - played for junior and senior teams

NHL alumni for Junior Verdun Maple Leafs

 * Conrad Bourcier § - 1934-35 MCJHL
 * Maurice Croghan § - 1934-36 QJHL
 * Fern Majeau § - 1934-36 MCJHL
 * Moe White § - 1935-36 QJHL
 * Les Ramsay § - 1936-39 QJHL
 * Connie Dion § - 1937-38 QJHL
 * Frank Eddolls § - 1937-38 MMJHL, 1938-39 QJHL
 * Emile Bouchard - 1937-40 MCJHL
 * Paul Bibeault § - 1938-39 QJHL
 * Bob Fillion § - 1938-40 QJHL
 * Jean-Paul Gladu - 1939-40 QJHL
 * Jimmy Peters - 1939-40 QJHL
 * Maurice Richard § - 1939-40 QJHL
 * Roly Rossignol - 1939-41 QJHL
 * Eddie Emberg - 1940-41 QJHL
 * Mel Read § - 1940-41 QJHL
 * Larry Zeidel - 1945-46 QJHL
 * Marcel Pelletier - 1946-48 QJHL
 * Roland Rousseau - 1947-48 QJHL
 * Jim Bartlett - 1949-50, QJHL
 * Jim Morrison - 1949-50 QJHL


 * Modern team?
 * Bob Berry - 1963-64, MMJHL
 * Jude Drouin - 1965-66 QJHL
 * Guy Lapointe - 1965-67 QJHL
 * Guy Charron - 1966-68 QJHL
 * Rey Comeau - 1966-68 QJHL
 * Jake Rathwell - 1966-67 QJHL
 * Andre Dupont - 1967-68 QJHL


 * Gilles Meloche - 1969-70 QMJHL
 * Pierre Hamel - 1969-71 QMJHL
 * Peter Folco § - 1969-72 QMJHL
 * Richard Brodeur - 1970-71 QMJHL
 * Richard Grenier - 1971-72 QMJHL
 * Bob Sauve - 1971-72 QMJHL

Other Verdun teams
Verdun Maple Leafs may have become Verdun / LaSalle in 1950-51.
 * Verdun LaSalle
 * Jim Bartlett - 1950-51 QJHL
 * Marc Boileau - 1950-51 QJHL
 * Guy Rousseau - 1950-51 QJHL


 * Verdun Cyclones 1946-48
 * Possible rival junior team, Verdun Cyclones. See hockeydb.com and Gump Worsley

QPHL team in 1939-40
 * Verdun Bulldogs

1929-31 team in MMRHL and MCHL
 * Verdun CPR

1946-47 team in QPHL
 * Verdun Eagles

1963-65 team in QueSr.
 * Verdun Pirates

Above lists are in progress. Flibirigit 03:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
I propose to move Verdun Maple Leafs (hockey) back to Verdun Maple Leafs, and leave Verdun Maple Leafs (football) where it is. I feel that that senior and junior ice hockey teams which existed over a span 50 years, are more notable than the junior football team which existed for six years. At best, the series of stub articles for the Quebec Junior Football League should be merged into one article. Flibirigit (talk) 22:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral I can agree with what you are saying, but personally I always prefer the main article name to be the disambiguator page, no matter how notable one of the articles is compared to the other. I dislike having to use Verdun Maple Leafs (disambiguation) for example. -Djsasso (talk) 16:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not suggesting we create the disambiguation page, rather put a simple hat note at the top. Flibirigit (talk) 17:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No I realize that, but I am saying I prefer to have Verdun Maple Leafs as the disambiguator page. A note in my opinion is never a good option. I always prefer the main name to be a disambiguation page. -Djsasso (talk) 23:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Tempted to support. I thought at first that the football team was only six years old, and if thatd been the situation I might have been neutral (comparing active team to bigger but defunct team). But football team has been defunct for 25 years, and hockey article was created first. What should have happened since there was only two articles is for Verdun Maple Leafs (football) to be created and note added to top of Verdun Maple Leafs page. Disambiguation only needed after three articles. Cross porpoises (talk) 19:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * NOTE:I have combined all the stub articles into Notre-Dame-de-Grace Maple Leafs. Now Verdun Maple Leafs (football) redirects there. Flibirigit (talk) 08:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Here in England the usual plural of "leaf" is "leaves". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's the same plural in North America too, however the team is spelled as "Maple Leafs." Flibirigit (talk) 17:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Outcome
Given the three weeks discussion time and the tepid (at best) comments above, I'm going to decline the move. If I've misinterpreted the comments or if I've missed something, please re-open the RfM. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 04:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)