Talk:Vernacular Music Center

Added links from other Wikipedia articles to this article, in order to address the "orphan" status reported in April 2013

Contested speedy deletion
This page is not unambiguously promotional. I just ran across this article. I did some wikification of wording and added a source. I believe that wording shortcomings were/are due to relying too much on VMC as a source rather than the main editor trying to be promotional. I think that it is an encyclopedic topic. It does not have enough suitable sources to confirm wp:notability, but the existence or non-existence of such has yet to be determined. North8000 (talk) 12:42, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * In that case, I'm nominating this article for deletion. It will take a while to implement since I have to ask a registered user according to the directions. I think it's pretty obvious that the article is promotional though. There are way too many external links within the body of the article. It's a straight up advertisement. It even reads like one. This article only talks about what services VMC offers to different groups of people (students/educators/general public). It says nothing about the history or notable alumni. It doesn't even have any news article references. I know because I looked it up on Google, Google Books, and Google News. Nothing useful (just because there are a lot of links doesn't mean they're useful; you actually have to read the links). Not to mention there's currently only two references, three if you include the one you just added. By-the-way, why didn't you link the source webpage? 211.181.131.34 (talk) 14:19, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia blocks entry of links to examiner.com.  I don't know why, but that particular page looks good.  So I showed the link without making it an active link.  I have also requested whitelisting that particular link. You might also like to read what I wrote the main editor on their talk page.  I also posted a brief note at the roots music project page.
 * IMHO under the wikipedia system, the issues that you noted would call for modification, not deletion of the article. I'd be happy to work on those.    In the end I believe that the one and only question will be the existence of suitable coverage in sources to satisfy wp:notability.   I don't know the answer to that question. My suggestion is to give this at least a few weeks to see if sufficient coverage / sources get added. North8000 (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The reason you can't link to examiner.com is that it's on the spam blacklist, mainly because it's often used for promotion, but also because it isn't considered a reliable source anyway. examiner.com isn't going to demonstrate the notability of the subject. Hut 8.5 15:03, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I still think it should be deleted though b/c I'm of the opinion that if suitable coverage can't be found, then there shouldn't be an article. I thought it was normal to think this way on Wikipedia. Doesn't an encyclopedia require good sources? The tone of the article is also a problem. I feel like I'm reading a brochure. Does there really need to be two sections (or a section at all) on faculty and staff? Why does there need to be links to staff member biographies? Wikipedia is not LinkedIn... or Facebook.
 * I went to 's talk page like you said. This article was deleted before two years ago for the same reason I'm nominating it for deletion now. I'm already not feeling positive about this article but it's even harder for me to patient with Drchristopherjsmith when he's already been told what was wrong with it the first time around. Dr. Smith should already know that he needs sources. 211.181.131.34 (talk) 15:07, 19 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Articles for deletion/Vernacular Music Center is now live. Please direct all future comments to that location. 211.181.131.34 (talk) 15:18, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

TTU Vernacular Music Center holds first multi-ensemble outreach meeting article By: L.B. Higginbotham
The link for the article "TTU Vernacular Music Center holds first multi-ensemble outreach meeting" article  By: L.B. Higginbotham posted at examiner.com has been approved  and is awaiting whitelisting. North8000 (talk) 12:30, 25 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I misunderstood. NOW it is approved and (I think) whitelisted.   Let's check:   North8000 (talk) 15:13, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

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