Talk:Vertigo

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Cleanup this little bit, huh?
The part about "famous people" w/ Vertigo is as follows: Famous people with vertigo: Alexi Kovalev, hockey player, Lebron James, Basketball Player, Seth Woods, Motivational Speaker, George Clinton, Music Artist, Richard Luger, U.S. Senator. Little messed up, couldn't figure out why Basketball Player was there. Then I realized what it meant. Point is, it may be a little confusing at first. --On2see 20:33, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe try adding brackets: Lebron James (Basketball Player). I don't know what the standard convention is but if you look at List of famous people with breast cancer it follows the "Lebron James, Basketball Player" format. --Skigamemaker 03:31, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Merge "famous people" section to Balance disorder
This was proposed in the edit: 18:47, 11 February 2006 Fitch (Talk | contribs) m (this is just a symptom, I don't think we'd say "list of famous people who have a chronic cough" on the cough page) Any discussion?Lisamh 04:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The section is completely unnecessary.

Poor image

 * I am experiencing vertigo today, and that image of the moving eye is distressing to me. I came to this page to learn more about this condition and just looking at it is exacerbating my symptoms. Please strongly consider removing and/or replacing it with a stationary image. Thank you. Mekabra (talk) 00:42, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

"Some people experience a vertigo sensation while looking at such images" That is stupid. The image is blured so that there is perceved motion. Why not have a blank image and say that people experience a white area of the web page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.184.224.165 (talk • contribs)


 * I say Go for it! (John User:Jwy talk) 00:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Have you ever experienced vertigo from looking at such an image? Or from a camera pan on video images? It really isn't the same as having a blank image and saying some people experience a white space. Maybe there is a better way to demonstrate vertigo though... ? However, if you can't/don't experience it, any representation or demonstration will seem 'stupid'. --Renice 14:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Please remove that image, what if people get dizzy looking at it unknowningly and sue Wikipedia for medical treatment? Think about it.


 * I agree although I don't think people will sue. Personally I came to this page because I have vertigo and I want to learn more about it. That image makes me feel very nauseous, It seems inconsiderate to have a page on an illness, and include a picture that exacerbates that illness.


 * Is the picture which induces vertigo really necessary? If someone is suffering from vertigo and seeking information from wikipedia, we do not need to cause them another episode by having them look at a vertigo-inducing picture. I have removed the picture.Joe 20:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Separate vertigo from dizziness article?
This article states "Vertigo should not be confused with dizziness. Dizziness is an unpleasant feeling of light-headedness, giddiness or fuzziness often accompanied by nausea." However, the Dizziness article makes no such distinction between the two. This is confusing, so I've added a mergeto-multiple template to the Dizziness page so that the two can be separated and properly linked to eliminate redundancy and confusion. (I can't do this myself, but I'm not sure if it's because I'm too dizzy, or because I'm having vertigo...?)--Renice 14:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Treatment
There is no info on the treatment of vertigo. Perhaps someone who knows could add this. Thanks. --212.56.109.125 16:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The treatment for it is a very simple procedure, it consist of seeing your doctor and just taking the prescribed tablets. Vertigo can last within a person for up to 3 months and then is treated with some people vertigo can stay with them for life.

Instant death
There's no support for the comment......any thoughts?


 * 4-aug-2007 I've now reverted it on the grounds that it appears to be vandalism.


 * no there is no instant death when it comes to vertigo my mom has it now it will be over with in 2 weeks or maybe before then —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.173.221.141 (talk) 12:54, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

According to chiropractors?!
What is this, the dark ages? Gee, while we're at it, what do osteopaths say? What about homeopaths? Reflexologists? Catholic priests? Sushi chefs? All these professions have in common that they are not based in medicine, and have no grounds to claim anything about a medical condition. --76.224.90.253 05:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * seconded Spayced (talk) 21:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * thirded! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.172.19.20 (talk) 15:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I use this for control of vertigo, with good results ...
please check with your physician to see if these OTC items are safe for you. goldenseal, alfalfa , potassium gluconate,... these seem to releve all syptoms for a day. I am not sure of why these work but, it is really nice to have mobility. stop using to see if the symptoms have gone. could be a few days to a few weeks, you have to be the responsible judge. best of success. (Aliascableguy (talk) 13:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC))

Consumption of alcohol
Article states "consumption of alcohol can cause vertigo". Why does alcohol cause vertigo? 85.252.39.82 (talk) 12:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

New term
Reference should be made to Alternobaric Vertigo in which the vertigo is caused by changes in the barimetric pressure. This term is mentioned in Dorland's Medical Dictionary, tho not in some others. Rumjal rumjal 02:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumjal (talk • contribs)

Vertigo causes and treatments
Here are some causes:

Sourse citation  : Typically, episodic vertigo is correlated with peripheral symptoms and can be the result of but not limited to diabetic neuropathy or autoimmune disease. Who contributited this ? Skip112846?


 * Vestibular neuronitis
 * Benign paroxysmal positional vertigo
 * Flicker vertigo
 * Alternobaric vertigo
 * Tullio phenomenon
 * Ménière's disease
 * Migraine
 * Geniculate neuralgia
 * Episodic ataxia
 * Carbon monoxide poisoning
 * Adverse effects of fluoroquinolones
 * Spontaneous cerebrospinal fluid leak
 * Superior canal dehiscence syndrome)
 * Cyanide poisoning
 * 4-HO-MPT
 * Tolosa-Hunt syndrome
 * Sultiame (overdose)

diabetic neuropathy or autoimmune disease. Who contributited this ? Zither citation ( source name)

Here are some treatments:


 * Epley maneuver (for benign paroxysmal positional vertigo)
 * Shirodhara
 * Betahistine
 * Cyclizine
 * Acetylleucine
 * Diphenidol
 * Prochlorperazine
 * Flunarizine

Here are some related articles:


 * Balance disorder
 * Acrophobia
 * Otitis interna
 * Electronystagmography
 * The spins
 * Illusions of self-motion
 * Ilinx

Una Smith (talk) 05:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

(Critical expression of interest)
I wrote an article on migraine-associated vertigo and was hoping to help on this page. I think the entire page should be thrown away. I wouldn't even touch it. --Julcal (talk) 15:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)julcal
 * Have you already transferred your rights to your article? Are you willing to place it (or something else you've created from scratch and/or public-domain material -- especially if you think it would be an improvement) into the public domain, say by your posting it at the bottom of this section of this "talk" (discussion) page? That would do so, and enable us, your colleagues, to consider joining you in starting over in a direction that seems more promising to you.  You would not be automatically "breaking a rule" if you chose to start by replacing our existing article with something you consider a better start; still IMO it would be far more promising to first specifically state here in what way material you propose substituting is preferable. --Jerzy•t 17:05, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to edit
It is proposed that Vertigo be part of the trial of a new template; see the green strip at the top of Pain where it has been in place for a couple of months. The purpose of this project is to encourage readers to edit, while equipping them with the basic tools. If you perceive a problem with this, or have any suggestions for improvement, please discuss at the project talk page --Anthonyhcole (talk) 09:57, 10 January 2011 (UTC).

Colloquial usage
There needs to be a mention on this page about the (incorrect) colloquial usage of the word "vertigo" to refer to the irrational desire to jump off of tall buildings when nearing the edge. See http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=535083, especially comment #34. It's linked to acrophobia but not exclusively. I can't find a scientific reference about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.30.48.28 (talk) 04:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Clause makes no sense.
" ... objective − subjects, are moving around the patient;... "

The comma and the use of the word "subjects" are confusing. Can't really guess what this is trying to say. Is it something like:

" ... objective − parts or all of the surroundings are moving around the patient;... "

Is this better, worse, wrong, indifferent? 58.165.216.125 (talk) 07:45, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Dehydration as a cause?
I am no medic, so I do not know if there is any truth in this, but dehydration is VERY frequently cited in online articles as a cause of temporary vertigo symptoms. Can anyone with more expertise confirm if there is any truth in this notion? If so, it would be a very useful addition to the article, as dehydration is easy to treat at home! Again speaking as a layman, this would appear to chime with the incidence of vertigo with hangovers, as dehydration is a factor there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.176.191 (talk) 09:05, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Picture
Could we get the picture to move as an option instead of as a default? I find it very distracting to read prose while it is moving. Biosthmors (talk) 17:59, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Completely agree, and if that's not possible then change the picture entirely. Very disruptive. Proxyma (talk) 20:30, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes! For someone suffering from vertigo, landing on its page with that animated gif is totally counterintuitive! Rana (talk) 22:23, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Help?
Well, when I spin around a lot and then stop spinning, I think I encounter Vertigo for somewhere around or in the range of 15-60 seconds. I want to know if this spinning sensation is Vertigo, because I get it after I stop spinning. Help please? 24.96.184.145 (talk) 05:44, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Worst type of vertigo?
This article doesn't make it clear whether persistent onset is worse than central vertigo or not. I'm trying to figure out what's the worst type of vertigo. --Waqqashanafi (talk) 07:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Peripheral causes
What exactly does this mean? How do peripheral causes differ from any other kind of causes? I have added a few more causes of vertigo associated with underwater diving - alternobaric, and vestibular decompression. Are these classed as peripheral? &bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 12:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I worked it out, it is not the causes that are peripheral or central, it is the vertigo, I have changed the subsection titles to prevent further confusion. &bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 13:53, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Mention of barotrama and decompression sickness removed from lead.
, You removed mention of barotrauma and decompression sickness as causes of vertigo from the lead, but did not mention why. Please explain. Was it because you don't think they should be mentioned there or because the source was unsatisfactory? Many other sources should be available if that was the problem.&bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 03:55, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Pbsouthwood the prior was based on old primary sources. I updated the "alternobaric vertigo" with the most recent review I could find on the topic in this edit.
 * I linked the term to an easier definition of it "uneven pressures between the middle ears" Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 00:32, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Here is a better source for trauma. https://books.google.ca/books?id=YBcHR-wQOWQC&pg=PA354 Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 00:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Added here with IMO more details to go in the body. Thoughts? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 00:36, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Adding lack of sleep as a cause of vertigo
I could not find any secondary source only hundreds of primary ones. Walidou47 (talk) 01:06, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay than we should likely leave it out User:Walidou47. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 01:17, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Or we could maybe work together and try to find a secondary source of quality ? Because maybe I did not do my research right only using google scholar. User:Doc JamesWalidou47 (talk) 01:20, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * When I write Wikipedia I look at high quality sources first. I than summarize what they say.
 * I do not tend to come up with an idea and than try to find sources to support it.
 * I let the sources lead. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 01:25, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, I only did the "mistake" of looking to some high quality primary sources, that is where the idea came from. Now what about this source that talks about sleep deprivation as a cause: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31018648 User:Doc James? Walidou47 (talk) 01:37, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Which text are you looking at? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 01:39, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "The study reported that visual stimuli, body movements, sleep deprivation, and crowding were the most common triggers of  PPPD" User:Doc James
 * PPPD meaning "Persistent postural-perceptual dizziness (PPPD) is a newly defined diagnostic syndrome that unifies key features of chronic subjective dizziness, phobic postural vertigo and related disorders. "Walidou47 (talk) 01:43, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Oversimplicity
Doc James why have you chosen to use 'drawing' for the image - it is not a drawing - it is a 3D rendering. Why not use the linked term 3D render which is accurate and since linked if needed to be looked up would introduce the enquirer to the actual topic.?--Iztwoz (talk) 08:20, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

What about driving?
I know I once read of a term for when you drive,come to a stop,and yet it feels like the car is still moving even as you press harder on the brakes. Its common..can't find the term for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:4100:A1A0:C91F:2937:D095:8E1A (talk) 17:03, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Movement of the earth??
Vertigo is not caused by the earth moving. I'm confused on how this edit was there for 17 days. Did nobody check? Pink Saffron (talk) 05:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

The most common vertigo source is not mentioned?
Why it is not mentioned that vertigo can be caused by fast physical spinning like in carousel? Reciprocist (talk) 02:55, 24 January 2023 (UTC)