Talk:Vesicle (biology and chemistry)

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carbox-ysome/isome ?
I have heard of the carboxysome (carboxisome). What is it? The Solo Owl 06:28 Nov 4, 2002 (UTC)
 * cf. carboxysome Snellios (talk) 17:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

and/or
Lir, "and/or" looks clumsy in an encyclopedia, and should be reworded where ever possible, see: http://newark.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/a.html#andor. A rewording I find useful is:


 * A and/or B

to
 * A and B, or both

Logically the same, but looks and reads better. The way it's worded now is ambiguous, is it:

(store AND transport) AND/OR digest

store AND (transport AND/OR digest)

--Lexor 03:05, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Merge with micelle?
Should this page be merged (together with micelle) under a new heading "lipid structures"? --Eleassar777 14:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't think it should be merged. Vesicles are important enough to deserve their own article and merging it as "lipid structures" would cause some problems since this would mean phospholipids, cholestrol, fats, etc. would have to be included as well.  In addition, lysozymes are not the only enzymes lysosomes produce and I only think white blood cells and some bacteriophages (which wouldn't have lysozymes anyway)...I changed cut some of the discussion on lysosomes to keep the article more concise. --Kinglz 21:46, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I also do not think a merger is wise. A vesicle is different in structure, location and function. Snellios (talk) 17:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup needs
The article needs a fair amount of work to define it better. It might be worthwhile considering what should be included here and what should be redirected elsewhere. I don't have a lot of input right now as I'm pretty busy. Flyguy649 19:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

In the introductory paragraph, liposomes are defined as artificial vesicles. However, in the "Artificial Vesicle" section, there is no mention of liposomes. This may cause confusion to the reader because it is mentioned in the intro but not specifically discussed anywhere else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Astrick123456 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Expertise
I did not find any obvious mistakes in this article. I have a doctoral degree in general biology, likely should be enough. The article would benefit from cleanup, but this is another story. Audriusa 16:51, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

yes, but what is it?
Whew. Now, what IS a vescicle exactly? You lost me at "hello." Wiki is for laymen.72.221.71.74 (talk) 18:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll give it a try!
I'm gonna work on overhauling this article to make it more understandable.

Be Bold!

Rozzychan (talk) 16:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey folks! Can you help me by adding references to the sections that I create? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. Rozzychan (talk) 18:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

first paragraphs
please someone change the first words in the page they are so annoying. 19:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC) —also thanks for answering the question     SIX YEARS LATER

Exosomes and microparticles
Perhaps this article should be merged with exosomes/microvesicles? Or at least mention them. I think the relationship between exosomes, vesicles and microvesicles/microparticles needs to be clarified. Granted, it seems pretty muddy at times in the literature, but if that's the case it needs to be mentioned.Cyrux (talk) 20:21, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Cyrux that exosome (vesicle) and microvesicles should at least be mentioned and linked to in this "vesicle" article, and ideally the relationship and distinction between them and other types of "vesicle" should be clarified. --DavidCary (talk) 02:41, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Chemistry and Biology
This article could benefit from splitting the chemistry article away. This article (as of June 12 2013) is all about biology. The topics are mostly divergent, particularly on the basis of size. Vesicles are liquid, self-organizing crystals of surfactant. A large amount of discussion can be had about just the chemistry, particularly about the 5 or 6 other liquid crystal forms and why and when vesicles form as opposed to other crystals: here's a hint, they are thermodynamically unstable. 74.143.23.197 (talk) 19:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Differentiating the Page
Vesicle in biology and vesicle in chemistry are different... Why are they kept in the same page? It's of no use... The page deals mostly with the biological vesicle

AGREE The term vesicle is used in specifically inorganic chemistry as a precursor condition/element to organic (biological) life. In geology a vesicle is a cavity formed in volcanic rock by entrapment of a gas bubble during solidification (tfd). Tfd defines vesicle simply as a small enclosed structure or cavity. As there is no mention of uses of the term in (inorganic) chemistry (paleobiology, geology etc) the article's title should be corrected so as to make this clear (or the introduction should be changed and the article expanded accordingly). At present the title is highly misleading. LookingGlass (talk) 21:58, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

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The second source does not allow access without log in information, it should be removed and replaced with a accessible source. I believe this is an accessible link to the same source: https://www.iupac.org/publications/pac/pdf/2011/pdf/8312x2229.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Astrick123456 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Re
Vacuoles and lysosomes are organelles that are not vesicles. They might be excluded from the page, but I think keeping them is OK since they are "vesicular"/vesicle-like structures. My very best wishes (talk) 17:17, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

"Autolysosome" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Autolysosome. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. signed,Rosguill talk 20:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)