Talk:Veterinary surgeon

Fees
I have noticed something which needs changing. The fees are set out at £15 000 which was reduced last year to £3 000 to study in the UK. Would anyone please confirm this?


 * Full fees are still around 15k. The subsidised value is for home (UK & European students), Scotland's rules are different again - see Top-up fees for more - this should be mentioned in the article. James 16:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I've updated the fees information. Home students DO NOT pay £15000 a year. All degrees for home students in universities in the UK are subsidised by the government. Fr33kMan 17:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Prices
Many of these prices are in Pounds(?) suggest converting or having a conversion to USD or ahve the equivilent. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Partapdua1 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC).


 * Why? These universites are located in the United Kingdom (who don't accept USD for payment), so I don't think it's appropriate to have US prices or any other currency conversions. I don't see this happening for US universites on Wikipedia. Also hard to update since the prices would change every single day ad infinitum Fr33kMan 17:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Merge to veterinarian
I suggest that if this article is not merged with Veterinarian, it be moved to Veterinary surgeon (UK) as the article is specific to the UK. --Fuhghettaboutit 14:48, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I think the answer is to merge it - there will be so much common material between the two. Rgds, --Trident13 16:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Trident13, the articles should be merged, perhaps with region-specific information in seperate sections. A UK-only article would only serve to confuse matters. James 23:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't agree. Information on Veterinary Surgeons and how to become one differs in UK and in the US. For instance, the schools and type of training that would-be vets needed to undertake. Who are the regulating bodies? Which universities are the best? Questions like these need country-specific answers. So I feel Fuhghettaboutit is right. This article should be moved to the UK wiki. -- Clairebretana 22:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from Claire, but the job is essentially the same across the world. The article is not specifically about how to become a veterinary surgeon or the regulation of the role - perhaps the answer is for one article on vets, with expanded sections for vet practice in the UK/US/Aus etc. as Culnacreann has suggested below. James 16:40, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree, merge the two. Then expand the different sections. Culnacreann 18:07, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Several months ago there was somewhat of a consensus that this article should be merged to (although the tag specified with) veterinarian. I think this is wrong. There is too much information here about the practice of veterinary medicine in the UK to realistically incorporate into veterinarian without resulting in a very slanted article. As it stands, this is a quite nice article about vets as recognized in the Commonwealth. I think the articles should reference one another. For now, I'm going to delete the merge tag (sorry for the majority of one decision). If anyone still thinks they should be merged, please retag this article with a mergeto tag and the other article with mergefrom. -- Selket Talk 05:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I concur, this page is about vets in the UK. People reading this are probably not interested in vets elsewhere (and if they are they can go to those pages). Vet practice in the UK is different from the USA and the degree requirements are different also. Fr33kMan 17:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

From my standpoint, this page is very confusing since, to Americans, a 'veterinary surgeon' is a board-certified specialist in veterinary surgery, NOT a general practice veterinarian. Anyone in the US trying to find information about a specialist surgeon by typing in 'veterinary surgeon' is going to be confused and misled.Kaastel 07:44, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I added a header to article to try to make the distinction clear. Please change if needed - the wording still seems a little awkward to me but I can't think of how to improve it. --Joelmills 14:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's actually a significant improvement.Kaastel 15:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

It's been brought up numerous times, but no one has done it. I'm merging this with Veterinarian ASAP. I'll do it when I've finished revising THAT page! The state of the entire "veterinary medicine" series of articles is atrocious...especially the veterinary medicine article itself, which is full of information regarding veterinarians only! — Skittleys (talk) 04:27, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

The vast majority of this page is detailed information specific to vets in the United Kingdom and that with an emphasis on the state of the profession there from undergraduates to corporate practices. The page is appropriately titled with the title that vets in the UK hold under the law. Although a merger with Veterinarian would place it with related United States and international information, it would not serve either page better to have a mixture of information because the profession in each country differs significantly. Also, it is important for there to be a page with the legal title for vets in the UK. The pages should always refer to each other and that would be sufficient. The discussion here does not currently support merging. In order to justify merging, proponents need to tackle the arguments provided by the opponents before proceeding. --Rolands75 (talk) 17:10, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

disagree, i work in the industry and the are two types of vets, the surgons/doctors and the nurses. this page should be changed to suit the nursing side of things. anyone of you google vet nurse and see what i mean. the info on this page might be wrong but there needs to be clear explaination of the 2 different types of vet. Wiki ian 10:14, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree that there should be one article that covers 'licensed practitioners of animal medicine' - and that it should cover as many national/education/regulatory systems as possible. This will mean, imo, specifics on each type/nation, with compare/contrast statements. (And it will mean a great deal of writing.) Until/unless practitioners from countries other than the USA and the UK/Commonwealth are represented in the article, I don't think it adds much to just merge 'veterinarian' and 'veterinary surgeon. (And non-licensed/limited license practitioners (vet nurses, vet techs, etc) should also be addressed.) Kerani (talk) 12:51, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

types

 * What types of veternarians are there and what does each type do ??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.189.227.4 (talk) 21:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Doctors and nurses....same as people doctors and nurses. i think there should be articles on both. Wiki ian 11:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Vet surgery in New Zealand
What about being a vet sergeon in New Zealand? Can you not become a vet sergeon at Massey University in Palmerston North? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.79.195.10 (talk) 20:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Now a DAB page
The information on veterinary surgeons in the UK which formed 99% of this article, can now be found at Veterinary medicine in the United Kingdom alongside information on the paraprofessionals who operate in the UK. This helps people navigate the similarities and differences between the professions, and give a holistic whole country view of veterinary medicine.

As a result this is now a disambiguation page to veterinarian, Veterinary medicine in the United Kingdom and veterinary surgery. There are improvements to be made to veterinarian to make it international and reflect some of the UK position, but this also solves the problem of the confusion between terms.

Regards, OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 11:42, 19 September 2011 (UTC)