Talk:Vibrato unit

It would be good to add information on exactly when and on which model Fender first introduced the vibrato unit to their guitar amplifiers, and the tremolo bar to their guitars. Andrewa 17:00, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Magnatone amplifiers
Current article reads The only guitar amps that featured true pitch shifting vibrato were certain models offered in the late 50s and into the 60s by Magnatone. I'm very skeptical of this claim, added fairly recently. Hmmm. Andrewa (talk) 10:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

An encyclopedia should not perpetuate confusion.
An encyclopedia is supposed to clarify and expand on knowlege. Perpetuating misnaming conventions from the past undoes the task that an encyclopedia sets out to do. It's important to point out when terms are misused, and more refernces that explicitly state that this term is a misnomer can be provided. InternetMeme (talk) 06:04, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Agree, but the lead shouldn't make this point in the very first paragraph, this is promotion of a (very common) POV. More references very welcome, but IMO all of them belong in the section describing the misnaming. Andrewa (talk) 20:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi there, that sounds reasonable. I like your revision, too. InternetMeme (talk) 02:33, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

This should be taken off and the section reworked
"The fact that, under harmonic analysis and contrary to the expectations of many musicians, the output of the original vibrato unit does contain other frequencies near that of the note frequencies and in place of the note frequencies.[citation needed] These are the mathematical result of the variation in volume of the notes, so there is a slight sense in which Leo Fender was correct in his naming of the vibrato unit (but not of the "tremolo arm"). "

That's not true or even possible. Vibrato units only affect the amplitude of the signal and cannot change the frequency in any way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.226.188 (talk) 02:16, 21 August 2012 (UTC)