Talk:Victor P. Tsilonis

Contested deletion
This page is not promotional. Its current form was given after a thorough discussion with the Wikipedia community members and it is based only on 100% verifiable facts.

It has a commendable number of sources and links from reputable websites, media and organisations and has a neutral point of view. Hence the suggestion that it should be fundamentally rewritten is not correct - see also e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Korner for a similar uncontested page

Hence it evidently falls outside CSD G11 scope and it should remain; if minor changes are needed these can be done; otherwise there is no uniformity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:1916:8100:65AA:389E:D0E4:D148 (talk) 11:55, 4 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Please note that this user has no other edits. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 22:04, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it complies with the requirements under G.11 for non deletion. More specifically, it presents the biography of a living person, stating only factual information, verifiable through properly operating external links and references. It is drafted in a neutral point of view and in no way can it be inferred that it is aimed at promoting or publicising an entity, person, product, or idea. In addition, this text is the result of weeks of continuous drafting and editing, in collaboration with quite a few and experienced Wikipedia users and it would be unfair to be unconditionally deleted, without a basis and on the false allegation that it is promotional, when it clearly is not. If that were to happen, it would create a rather discouraging precedent for future users who are interested in creating objective, encyclopedic content, such as this page. Therefore, it should not be deleted but, if minor changes are needed, those can be implemented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truejustice20 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 4 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Please note that this user has no other edits (aside from creating an empty section in their Sandbox). Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 22:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it is clear that the purpose of this page is to neutrally present the life facts related to the career of a living person (this can be seen, among other things, from the headings chosen for each particular category), backing them up with appropriate external links and sources. As the main author of this page, I can testify that its edit history clearly demonstrates an interactive collaboration between various experienced users. None of them has ever characterised this page as “promotional”. Evidence of this is that the words have been very carefully chosen to present in an unbiased and impartial way the most important life facts of this individual. Calling this page promotional, as it stands, is an erroneous characterisation. If changes have to be implemented I am more than willing to have them pointed out to me. However, deleting the page entirely will result in an extreme and unnecessary measure. Consequently, this is not a page that should be deleted on the grounds of G.11. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agnostosnous (talk • contribs) 16:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC)