Talk:Victoria Beckham/Archive 1

Vegetarian?
She's quoted here saying she eats lots of fish - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Victoria-Beckham/142218819189317 Chicken & fish here - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268987,00.html Fish & prawns here - http://www.dotspotter.com/news/331376_Victoria_s_new_diet_Reveled —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.125.236 (talk) 20:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * This news article says that she is actually vegetarian (they don't eat fish!) but that she is also reading a vegan book  What does it say in her autobiography about this? 86.143.111.114 (talk) 09:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)]
 * I don't personally own her biography, but you can ask Eagle Owl. Miranda 09:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have a copy either, but here: Food fads 'spark allergy fears'. BBC News, 2006-01-12. Retrieved on 2008-01-18, it does state that she is dairy intolerant. Does anyone think it's worth mentioning in the article? Eagle Owl (talk) 17:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a heads up, even though this was from four years ago: I don't think she is vegetarian nor vegan. She was quoted as stating she eats fish and chicken as recently as August 2011. ★ Dasani ★ 17:53, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Removed more text
She said she was born in London on Leno —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * Unsourced and cannot be included per WP:BLP.  Mi r a n da   04:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

She has stated previously that she was born in London or Hertfordshire - the story changes from time to time. Her birth certificate (as sighted in 'Hello' magazine!) states clearly her place of birth was Princess Alexandra Hospital in Harlow which is in Essex (and is the local maternity hospital for Goffs Oak). Her inconsistency presumably relates to her attempts not to be seen as an 'Essex girl' which, by birth at least, she is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexps (talk • contribs) 23:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Removed section stating Beckham is the only Spice Girl to have reached the top 10 solo as all the others have had number ones.

Also she did date Corey Haim, but he dumped her by kicking her cool out of a car on the motorway hard shoulder.

She was standing next to Bechhman as they announced his new $250million deal to play in LA. If you look close you can see her doing the math for the divorce settlement.
 * Source? Miranda 09:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Removed text
I have removed the "and why she calls her husband 'Golden Balls'!" part as it jars with the last paragraph (the whole of which is marginal in its relevance anyway). It looks like just a bad joke. If there is any relevant factual basis to this then it can go back in by all means. Mat-C 22:08, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

She did it on Parkinson ! Anyone recall when? It was a few years ago now. Britmax (talk) 20:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

And here it is Britmax (talk) 20:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

POV pushing
victoria beckham fans seem to have hijacked this page... a really poor entry, full of pov and poor syntax etc. it reads like a Hello! profile of her, not an encyclopaedia entry. but i guess i'm being stupid to expect more... i am pretty dim, i spent ages editing it... *shame* --172.212.21.52 02:20, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

see, now look at the britney spears page.. that's fucking amazing! --172.212.21.52 02:26, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Sex tape
Does she have a sex tape? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.160.89 (talk) 00:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No --DoctorStrange7 (talk) 15:15, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Question of "commercial failure"
This entry confuses me: "Despite being one of the most well-known celebrities in Britain, and having all her music reach the top ten (the only solo spice to do so), Victoria Beckham's career as a solo artist is largely considered to have been a commercial failure. The only Spice Girl not to have had a UK number one single as a solo artist." So she's the only Spice Girl to reach the top ten, but she's also the only Spice Girl not to reach the number one spot??


 * It says ALL her music has reached the top ten. But none has gotten to No.1


 * : Exactly. All the other spice girls have reached No.1 with at least one single each, but they also had singles that never reached the top ten. On the other hand, all of Victoria's singles reached top ten, though neither of them reached No.1.

Question: Wasn't her mother caught buying multiple copies of her single on tape (the cheapest format) in a branch of Woolworths (UK) - coincidently one branch that contributed figures to the charts? Seems relevant to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.87.187 (talk) 01:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * This confuses me as well as the positions in the album chart (discography) seems to show that she did have a tinchy bit of worldwide success as her album reached high numbers around the world: Isreal #4 China #2 Japan #6 and Brazil #5. --DoctorStrange7 (talk) 15:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Victoria's Years active
User:Thegingerone This is a pet peeve of mine. Victoria made solo music from 2000-2003. She was a Spice Girl 1996-2000 and she has been a 'celebrity' and fashion designer from 2004-present. So what should we list her as? Logical thought is that box is about music and this being her page and not the Spice Girl's I feel its proper to say 2000-2003. She has said shes NOT making more music unless it was another performance with the Spice Girls. Some of her material has leaked but its not 'released'. So PLEASE quit changing it.

What was that dress?
can someone please tlel me which dress it was that victoria wears by that reaallly famous designer.. the dress is meant ot make you look really good.. it's really famous.

Um I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but she wore an amazing green-turquoise-blue Cavalli (a close personal friend) gown to the Swarovfski Fashion Rocks for The Prince's Trust either this or last year (2005 or 2006). I also read that she's commissioned him (Cavalli) to dress her for every red-carpet event she goes to.

please reply on my talk page! --Rushda2 15:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Unreleased songs
I've just deleted the following song titles: "Me And You This Time", "Resentment", "That Dude", "Valentine".

They were in The Real Beckhams DVD, therefore officially released.

I changed the wording for the 2006 leaks. It just seemed so wordy. I added a 'Real Beckhams' part because I guess technically thats true. They werent really released yet they werent 'leaked' either. Also I removed the 'remixes' because that just cant be said (I believe you put that up on the paragraph about the leaks). We have never heard the 'original' or 'single' or 'album' versions of any of these songs; we havent heard the Ebay mixes and all we can say is these songs are the only leaked copies. They didnt have the word 'remix' in the title so we really cant say that. For now their just the only mix we have. [user:Thegingerone] Released means issuing a product for sale or public showing, and they were in The Real Beckhams DVD. They weren't released as individual singles or as parts of an album, but they are available for sale. Just like B-sides. I didn't put the paragraph about the leaks. The owner of the original eBay CD have listened to the eleven songs recently leaked and confirmed that they are, in fact, remixes.

Get Ready (Featuring Maishyla)
Get Ready (Featuring Maishyla) does not have anything to do with Victoria whatsoever. It was just a song that a fan posted in forum, the usual "This sounds like Victoria, do you think it might be her?" 220.101.147.249 16:30, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Height
does anyone no how tall she is? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Igorndhaswog (talk • contribs) 20:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC).


 * Depends what shoes she's wearing ! -- Beardo 21:19, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

General questions
there seems to be WAY too much information in this article...can we excise some of it? also, many things are hinted at and never resolved (the fashion show, etc.) do we have new info for them? Bouncehoper 06:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Pictures of Victoria while pregnant
HAS THERE EVER BEEN PICTURES OF HER PREGNANT —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * Two pictures of Victoria Beckham while pregnant: with Brooklyn (1998 or 1999), and  with Romeo in 2002. WikiEditor 09111 (talk) 11:06, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Weight
why is so much of the article devoted to her musical career that nobody gives a ____ about, but none referring to her weight, which is commented on EVERY DAY by tabloids and magazines. The only things that people want to know about Victoria Beckham are 'is she anorexic?' and 'what's it like being married to becks?'. I'm assuming that Posh fans have deleted anything controversial. 80.41.21.8 18:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. I scanned through the article and found nothing controversial per se.


 * I don't see how her weight would be anything important to the article. Victoria's musical career used to be her profession and is one of the reasons why she became famous and got her fans. And yes, there are people wanting to know, for instance, if she plans on coming back to music, or acting, or reuniting with the Spice Girls. Whether she is anorexic or not (and I don't think she is, because she doesn't keep losing weight or is seen having seizures or anything), it would only be important if it was having influence in other people's behaviour. Which doesn't seem to be the case.

Omg! The tabloids only go on about her weight because A) They're got nothing else to say about her, and B) She's maginally thinner then every other underweight celebrity. If you look at her arms and legs, and then at those of an anorexic person, it doesn't even compare.


 * Total BS, I'm afraid. She has admitted in "Learning to fly" that she's anorexic. Here are 2 articles stating that.

 --Panzer71 (talk) 13:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Breast enlargement
Maybe need to add a mention of her lying about this, and then being forced by legal action to admit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.173.110 (talk) 09:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Birthday
I think someone should add a section about Victoria's 33rd birthday. Did you hear what Becks got her? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.197.27.10 (talk) 23:04, 21 April 2007 (UTC).
 * That would not be encyclopedic info. Jim Michael (talk) 18:12, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

VB as arbiter of taste
I added a comment under fashion to the effect that VB's credentials as an arbiter of taste were dented when it emerged that she and DB are customers of the British jeweller Theo Fennell - since his ranges are notable for their vulgarity ( as well as being significantly over-priced, which I did not mention ) and someone removed this within a few hours. Is that right ? Was it not fair comment ? Someone please advise...160.83.32.14 10:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth, remember! Post a relevant, supporting citation of good quality, and provided your comments are reasonable, nobody will have reason to remove them....JulesVerne 16:49, 12 June 2007 (GMT)

Scientology
I noticed no reference here, or in the article. Is she, or isn't she? She sure as hell turns up at all their public things like weddings, christenings, et cetera. Jachin 10:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * nothing has been stated publicly/officially that she is a Scientologist. It could be mentioned (the rumor, that is) if a source were found. Joliefille 12:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Adding info
I went in to this just cruising for info, but found some of the personal stuff vague or completely not there (ie, "they married some months later"). Beckham's page is much more detailed, so I got most of it from there. However, I know next to nothing about her recording career post-SG, so if anyone can go through that w/ a fine-toothed comb, it'd be a great asset to the article. Joliefille 12:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Missing info
This article should say something about how she managed to overcome her skin problems, and when she had her breasts enhanced. -- Beardo 21:20, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

In 'That Extra Half An Inch', she says she had REALLY, REALLY serious acne, and they finally went to the Doctors, and it turned out she had 'a food allergy', and then her skin was fine from then on. She's always denied having implants, but apparantly there are court documents proving she did, so I assume if anyone could find them, they'd be dated. I recently saw a photo of her at the 2000 VH1 Fashion Awards (where she was filmed for her brief snipit in 'Zoolander'), and she was looking very flat then.

I saw a photo in a magazine last year sometime, she was wearing a dress split quite low down the front, two horizontal scars were clearly visible below the breast. So yes she has had breast enhancement surgery and it would appear shes had it done twice.

Someone put in some stupid comments about the spice girls killing people on July 12, 2007. I deleted this entire section.

Controversy?
Here is what is in the second part of the Controversy section, at the moment:

"It was reported in October 2007 that Beckham had turned down the opportunity to appear in Sex and the City: The Movie. She stated in an interview: "[I was] asked to be in the Sex and the City film, which I would have loved to have done, but because I am in full-on Spice Girls rehearsal mode, unfortunately, I can't do it."[119] Beckham's marriage and career as a singer have made her the 52nd richest woman in Britain[120] and the 19th richest person in Britain with husband David, with an estimated joint wealth of £112 million ($225 million).[5] In 2010, Beckhams's charity work with Save the Children earned her a nomination for the Do Something With Style Award from the VH1 Do Something Awards. The awards show, produced by VH1, is dedicated to honouring people who do good and is powered by Do Something, an organization that aims to empower, celebrate, and inspire young people.[121] She is a patron of the Elton John AIDS Foundation."

How exactly are charity work, wealth and power, and a failure to be in a movie because of Spice Girl obligations considered Controversies? this page needs cleaned up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xapxapxap (talk • contribs) 17:09, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Fashion or couture?
Hi John, just a quick note on this. I changed fashion to couture in order to distinguish from other fashion brands VB had previously launched (jeans, glasses) and her other fashion forays with other brands. I can't call it own brand as she'd previously used her name on jeans and it is technically couture. Fair point to take the quote off in the lede – was possibly making it overlong – but The Independent information, ref and quote about guest editing French Vogue and being in a panel discussion with the head of Parsons NY was an attempt to describe the transition VB has made from not being taken seriously to being taken rather seriously in some quarters. It also goes some way to addressing the banner about info being out of date. Any objections if I write that info back in? Libby norman (talk) 19:40, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I thought "couture" sounded rather fancy; as I understand it, it is just a French term for fashion. Can we take this to article talk? --John (talk) 19:52, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course, but couture doesn't just mean fashion. Haute couture (basically, made to measure as opposed to ready to wear) would be a term for the high-fashion brands, such as Chanel, Versace and so on, and that's the sector her label is in. What about the section you lost from The Independent which brings VB up to date and describes her work with Vogue France and Parsons NY? Many thanks. Libby norman (talk) 22:13, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I prefer "fashion". What do the sources say? --John (talk) 23:13, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks John, I appreciate your assistance in moving this onto the Talk page. On couture, maybe this could be changed to something like Victoria Beckham brand (given that couture is likely to cause confusion), but we need to distinguish somehow between earlier endeavours and the move into a solo design business. Note that I've reinserted The Independent section that was reverted earlier but it's now paraphrased – it brings things a bit more up to date to address some of the concerns of the outdated flag of June 2014 and I've included the ref that supports it. Many thanks Libby norman (talk) 00:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC) (talk) 00:05, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2015
"Whispr Group" ?

66.74.176.59 (talk) 08:53, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Assuming that you are requesting Whispr be changed to Whisper, the cited source refers to it as the Whispr group, and a quick Google search seems to confirm this http://whisprgroup.com/ Cannolis (talk) 10:08, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

External links modified
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