Talk:Victoria Coren Mitchell

Did she make a porn video?
while at University, or am I thinking of someone else? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.194.5.18 (talk) 23:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC).
 * To be honest, that wouldn't surprise me. I'm watching her on Balderdash & Piffle as we speak, and she seems like the saucy minx that would make a porn vid at uni. - PeeJay 22:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I was watching Balderdash and Piffle at the same time and thinking exactly the same thing. She apparently "made" a porn-film, rather than starring in it - so she could write a book about the experience: 'Once More With Feeling' at Amazon Dugo 23:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Victoria made a film about two people's (she and a male friend) attempt at producing a porn film. Early part of the decade. I forget when. 213.162.125.117 (talk) 16:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Think it was called Once more with feeling —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.53.191 (talk) 01:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Pro tour "nickname" ... Teacup
Apparently Victoria has sought out her adoring public to give her a nickname, as it was suggested* she use/choose one during some recent (televised, I think) tournament.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,2016395,00.html

The result? After she rejected some punny and sexually-suggestive offerings, she finally settled on "Teacup". Should this be part of the article? Perhaps with the link above?


 * Her original "call out for suggestions" article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,2011127,00.html 199.214.28.80 20:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Poker jargon
Could someone who understands poker translate the poker jargon into something more like plain English? Articles shouldn't use jargon without explaining it. qp10qp 21:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Done! Thepineapplehead 20:16, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * And undone? After only two hands of heads-up play the table saw a flop of 5-3-4. Tahtouh bet out and Coren called. After a 10 on the turn, Tahtouh moved all-in and Coren called instantly. Tahtouh showed 8-6, and Coren had 6-7. Having flopped the straight and avoiding a seven on the river to give Emad a higher straight, she defeated her opponent. Seriously, I have no idea what this means, other than she won (I think) 60.240.207.146 (talk) 11:53, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

It would be a long and labourious read to translate in it into terms anyone can understand - they'd still have to know the basics of poker! Better to just let them learn the riles of No-Limit Texas Hold 'Em if they want to investigate further. 212.46.132.194 (talk) 11:49, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

When was she born ?
Opening line says 1964 but she's listed in 1972 births... Bigfatspider 11:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The 18 August 1973 date does look wrong, there is a Birth Registration for a Victoria Elizabeth COREN registered in Hammersmith in Q3 1972 with mother's maiden name KASRIEL which is the name given for her mother in the article. Only one COREN-KASRIEL marriage Alan COREN to Anne D KASRIEL in Q4 1963 in Marylebone. The Times, Wednesday, Aug 23, 1972 has an announcement of her birth on 18th August 1972.  --jmb (talk) 10:58, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

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No book about King Lear
I just watched an episode of Only Connect, where Coren stated she enjoyed the unreliability of Wikipedia, citing her own page, where it claimed for a long time she wrote a book about King Lear. She said that she did not write such a book. The claim appears all over the web, I don't know if they all copied Wikipedia, but that seems likely. There is a short article on the Penguin Classics website, penned by a "Victoria Coren" (http://www.penguinclassics.co.uk/static/cs/uk/10/minisites/shakespeare/readmore/kinglear.html), but no indication it's the same person even for that.

So please do not re-add this information to the page, unless you have a better source than Coren herself, Only Connect (BBC4), Episode one, Series two. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Othellowasaprettycoolguy (talk • contribs) 06:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

King Lear added. Cohen is a hoaxer. http://www.penguinclassics.co.uk/static/cs/uk/10/minisites/shakespeare/readmore/kinglear.html. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roland Sparkes (talk • contribs) 23:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

1) Is there any evidence it's the same Coren? When I first commented I spent a while trying to find some, but couldn't.  2) That's not a book anyway, that's a short article, so if you're going to keep re-adding this junk to the article, at least make it consistent to the source we have, and spam "Lul she rote a thing about King Lear dude" each time.

Coren could well be hoaxing wikipedia, but wikipedia doesn't care about the truth, wikipedia cares about verifiability. So far on the verifiability front, we have Corens own statement on her show Only Connect that anyone could verify, that she has not written a book about Lear, and we have a short article about Lear that was written by someone with the same name, but it has not been verified it's the same person. Othellowasaprettycoolguy (talk) 13:32, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

[b]Amazon[/b]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Books/s?ie=UTF8&rh=n%3A266239%2Cp_27%3AVictoria%20Coren&field-author=Victoria%20Coren&page=1

[b] British Library[/b]

http://entrypoint.bl.uk/Results.aspx?query=victoria+coren&imageField.x=0&imageField.y=0&Web=True&OG=True&ILS=True&BLD=True

[b]Google books[/b]

http://books.google.com/books?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_brr=0&as_pt=ALLTYPES&lr=&as_vt=&as_auth=victoria+coren&as_pub=&as_sub=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_isbn=&as_issn=

[b]ELAN - Essex Libraries Automated Network[/b]

http://essexlibraries.essexcc.gov.uk/evs-app/List.csp?SearchT1=victoria+coren&Index1=Keywords&Database=1&PublicationType=NoPreference&OpacLanguage=eng&NumberToRetrieve=20&SearchMethod=Find_1&SearchTerm1=&Profile=Default&PreviousList=Start&PageType=Start&EncodedRequest=*16*A0*09*90z*03*D7f*16*A7X*7Cs*F3c*FD&WebPageNr=1&WebAction=NewSearch&StartValue=1&RowRepeat=0&MyChannelCount=&CSPCHD=00100003000235gubLX7002211745123

[b]Copac National, Academic, and Specialist Library Catalogue[/b]

http://copac.ac.uk/wzgw?form=qs&id=090721497ec7b9d22c055c86212760f5c2f224&au=victoria+coren&ti=&any=&fs=Search

[b]Library of Congress[/b]

http://www.loc.gov/fedsearch/metasearch/?cclquery=victoria+coren&search_button=GO#query=(victoria%20coren)&filter=pz:id=127.0.0.1:9012/lcweb|127.0.0.1:9012/ammem|127.0.0.1:9012/catalog|127.0.0.1:9012/ppoc|127.0.0.1:9012/thomas

[b]World catalogue of libraries[/b] http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=victoria+coren&qt=notfound_page&search=Search

Surely if she'd actually written a book on this topic, at least one of these places would have heard of it? Othellowasaprettycoolguy (talk) 13:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * She's written one shortish article about Lear for a Penguin website. She hasn't written a book about it. Davidbod (talk) 23:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

My favourite gambling movie is…
“Big Deal At Dodge City”

I’ll know I’ve made it when…
“I get ten hours sleep at a single stretch”

If they made a movie of your life so far I would want to be played by…
“Drew Barrymore”

The bad beat that still haunts me is….
“KK v. JJ in a SCOOP the other night, but only because it was two days ago. I’ll have forgotten by Friday. I have a great temperament for poker, no resentments.”

When I’m not playing poker I’m…
“Reading, writing, cooking, gardening, playing Scrabble, playing bridge. Anything but sleeping.”

If I could offer one piece of advice to a new poker player it would be…
“Never play for a sum of money you can’t comfortably afford.”

If I could have only one lasting accolade on my Wikipedia page it would be…
“The book I just wrote. I’m really proud of it.”

Read full Interview at Rakeback.co.uk


 * Is this genuine comment, or advertisement in the comments?

Notability
The only 3rd party references we have are for her book. Arguably that's enough for an article for the book instead, but not for her (notability is not inherited - Wikipedia has articles for things like notable books, software, other products, but this doesn't automatically mean an article for who wrote them). There doesn't seem to be evidence to satisfy any of WP:AUTHOR. Yes, she writes for notable newspapers, but notability is not inherited. Her poker playing, whilst evidently good, doesn't qualify under basic criteria at Notability (sports). Mdwh (talk) 12:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sourcing definitely needs work, but she's clearly notable per  & WikiProject Poker. – xeno talk  13:31, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * She was on Have I got News for You. I think that means something. Surely, the combination of minor status across fields, and her celebrity qualifies as something? 60.240.207.146 (talk) 11:57, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * So was a tub of lard. Not a big deal in the scheme of things. – ukexpat (talk) 18:34, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * She's presented several radio and TV shows, written for numerous papers, had several news stories in papers *about* her, written at least two books and won the London EPT Poker Tour. What more do you want? 212.46.132.194 (talk) 11:53, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Twitter fight with Michael Winner
Why no mention of her recent fight with Michael Winner over his Tweets about her breasts? She has written newspaper articles about it and the episode has provoked a lot of discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.62.32.131 (talk) 09:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the article history. Qwfp (talk) 10:10, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The Twitter fight is nothing more than gossip; there's nothing to do with who Victoria Coren is or why she's worthy of having a Wikipedia article. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 13:53, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The episode seems to say more about Winner than Coren, which is probably why it has a brief mention in his entry. --Qwfp (talk) 14:30, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

She's apparently dating David Mitchell
According to the daily telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/8362654/David-Mitchells-double-act-with-Victoria-Coren.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.155.216.18 (talk) 19:13, 8 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Kinda looks like it. I'm probably missing something when the article mentions "Mandrake," and it's look a little gossip-y to me, but if I find any other references toward this pairing then I'd say it's worth a mention. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 19:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Birth date again
The BBC, The JC say she is 38 now (1973). They are stronger sources than Ancestry.co.uk Span (talk) 18:28, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I noticed you undid my edit on Victoria Coren's birth year, citing the reason as 'weak source'. You might wish to note the following: The Victoria Elizabeth Coren in the Birth Index (Hammersmith, Q3 1972, Mother's maiden name Kasriel) IS her. There is only 1 Victoria Coren appearing in the birth records for England and Wales from 1761 to 2006 (both on Ancestry.co.uk and Findmypast.com). The only 2 people whose surnames were Coren and mother's maiden surname Kasriel at any time were Victoria Elizabeth Coren and Giles Robin P Coren (1969 Hammersmith). The only marriage has between a male Coren and a female Kasriel was between Alan Coren and Anne D Kasriel in Marylebone Q4 1963 and it is well-documented that her brother is called Giles and her (late) father was Alan. I do this for a living (research, genealogy, people-finding). I can assure you that births are NEVER registered in the year before they occur. I can also add that journalists often get this sort of detail wrong (often by looking on Wikipedia). Do you have a subscription to Ancestry or Findmypast? If not, please don't contradict people who do. Iantnm (talk) 22:00, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia. This encyclopedia is an collaborative enterprise, we edit as a community. The talk pages are for discussion of such things as reliable sources and exploration of contradictory evidence. Here we go entirely by verifiable sources. Here Ancestry.com is held to be an unreliable source. Please see the recent discussion on the reliable sources noticeboard. There is also doubt about findmypast.co.uk.  See the recent sources discussion here. As both are behind paywalls, their information is not readily checkable by all. We work and rely mostly on secondary and tertiary sources. As the noticeboard discussion concludes, I think it's safest to note in Coren's article that there are conflicting sources and the birth date is unclear at this point. I encourage you, Iantnm, to join this discussion. Span (talk) 12:40, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Somebody used a tweet from Victoria of "This might be my best birthday ever" as a source for her date of birth, but it seems presumptuous to take that completely literally. (This could just have easily been at a party a few days before or after.) --McGeddon (talk) 11:46, 6 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I have had an exchange with Span on my talk page which will be of interest to other editors involved in this discussion. Philip Cross (talk) 22:09, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * As a user edited source IMDb is not held by WP to be a reliable source and is especially questionable for contested personal info in a BLP. The BBC,  JC sources give 1973. Other editors (above) say they have checked the birth records and are convinced the 1973 date was wrong. We can't use public documents as sources, but it might suggest there is a conflict of data somewhere. Celebrities very often fudge their birth dates. Who knows in this case? WP:BLP says no info is preferable to dodgy info. We might have to wait for Coren to explicitly state her birth date. This same question comes up often on many biogs. Span (talk) 22:45, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It looks as though the recommendations concerning the citing of IMDb has been strengthened since I last looked into the issue. The National Library of Australia, WorldCat and The Independent have 1972. Note also that another editor has asserted that The Times on 23 August 1973 announced Victoria Coren's birth on the 18th. An Evening Standard piece by Coren dated 19 August 1972 identifies her birthday as "yesterday". I think that resolves the issue, and will change the source. Philip Cross (talk) 23:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking into that. Coren's own statement of her birth date has to be as conclusive as it gets. Hopefully that will put the above contention to bed. Cheers. Span (talk) 11:27, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Seeing this is cropping up again, I'll add this source, this, this... all of which confirm the statements by above that she was born in 1972, as set out in the General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes - accessed via Ancestry.com but not user-generated.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:02, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Use of specialist poker language
I have added the technical specialist tag to this article because paragraph 2 of the "Poker" section contains jargon that will defeat most readers who have only a passing knowledge of the game. It would be helpful if someone could re-write this section in language that most people could understand. Peteinterpol (talk) 11:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I've moved the tag from the top of the article to the "Poker" section. Qwfp (talk) 11:45, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * There is a section on this very subject, up the talk page.. Meerta (talk)

Joke?

"Coren has joked that she and Mitchell met at a party." How is this supposed to be a joke? What is so funny about meeting someone at a party? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.92.241 (talk) 22:42, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Title of page: "Victoria Coren Mitchell"?
The BBC are now referring to her as "Victoria Coren Mitchell" (see credits to tonight's episode of "Only Connect" plus the following: http://www.radiotimes.com/programme/tmvp/only-connect. Should the title of this page change? Peteinterpol (talk) 21:28, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I'd suggest simply add a reference to her new professional name "Victoria Coren Mitchell" rather that change the page title until it gains in common usage. Makes me wonder if David is now referred to as "... Coren Mitchell" or Mitchell Coren? Also interesting to note that it is not hyphenated. 13:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.148.163.176 (talk)


 * Don't let us jump the gun. Even she is unclear on what to do, cf: https://twitter.com/VictoriaCoren/status/334089651335856128 16:38, 14 May 2013 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.148.163.176 (talk)


 * Yes, I've heard many media variations of her new name. We use the name most commonly recognised, as the article title, which will remain 'Victoria Coren' for quite a while yet. Span (talk) 17:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I noticed the name Coren-Mitchell in the credits to Heresy, presumably this is her new chosen name. Agreed don't bother renaming the article but if it's her new name it's worth a mention.Gymnophoria (talk) 11:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * See Coren's Twitter comment above from one week ago. She still uses 'Victoria Coren' on her own website, in her Guardian column and as her Twitter moniker. Span (talk) 11:20, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Now writing for the Guardian as Coren Mitchell, and she's added "M." to her twitter account. Additionally she continues to be credited as Coren Micthell on Only Connect and also an appearance on The Culture Show. I think she's made her mind up! I move that the page be renamed and redirected accordingly. Andy (talk) 21:41, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

She writes under Victoria Coren Mitchell for The Guardian now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:630:E4:42ED:8000:2:B3D6:F62A (talk) 11:48, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Beach Volleyball?
On Heresy episode 704, she claimed that she could have competed in Beach Volleyball at an international level. Is that true, or is she just bragging that she looks good in a bikini? Ptomblin (talk) 15:38, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Affair with Harry Thompson…?
The article of TV producer Harry Thompson states that his marriage broke down as the result of an affair with "a 25-year-old woman (later revealed to be Victoria Coren)", which links to here, but there is nothing about the matter in this article. Jock123 (talk) 10:22, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The reference to Coren in the Harry Thompson article is sourced to the Daily Mail, which is not a reliable source and should not be used anyway. In any case, her friendship with Thompson does not seem sufficiently notable to be mentioned here.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Television Career
as host of Only Connect and Balderdash and Piffle amongst others, this definitely needs expanding!! It's on my to-do list should I ever get round to it, however it's prime for expanding until I do. Rayman60 (talk) 10:12, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Radio and television
This article has a table of radio and television programmes which Victoria Coren Mitchell has appeared in, but would it not be better to have this table re-tabulated to make it clearer which programmes are television programmes and which programmes are radio programmes? Vorbee (talk) 17:38, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Meeting David Mitchell inconsistency
This article says she met David Mitchell at a film premiere but his article says they met at a party hosted by Jonathan Ross. Which is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.117.43.76 (talk) 21:59, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Barbara
As long as there's a reliable source that's been authorised by the subject(s) of the BLP, there's no reason to omit the name of a family member where appropriate. In this case, the daughter Barbara is mentioned in this source, which is an interview with David Mitchell on the Radio Times website, so I'd suggest it's safe to mention her name in this article. WP:BLPNAME states that names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced. I would argue that this example is properly sourced AND that readers would be sufficiently interested to look it up on Wikipedia. Also note that the name is included in David Mitchell's article, where the "reliable" source is merely a tweet. Rodney Baggins (talk) 13:21, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, no comments or objections after 7 days, so I'll do it. Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I see no reason to include the child's name. Per WP:BLPNAME: "The names of any immediate, former, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject." Why is the child's name relevant or helpful in understanding the subject? The policy also says "The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons." I think it should be removed on that ground. Dave.Dunford (talk) 20:44, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * So why didn't you mention that 7 days ago? And why do you not object to her being named in David Mitchell's article? Rodney Baggins (talk) 07:50, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * a) Because I didn't get round to it, and b) because I wasn't aware of it. But, returning to the matter in hand, you need to explain how including the child's name is "relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject" when the guideline says that the "presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons". Dave.Dunford (talk) 08:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Old goosebump arms??
She is yes 2A00:23C6:DB85:B500:20FA:9C39:DF9E:44C0 (talk) 22:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2021
Nickname should be changed to old goosebumps arm --> stated in taskmaster season 12 episode 9. 2A02:8084:51BE:5900:3D5F:BB94:67AE:6771 (talk) 00:05, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Old Goosebump Arm
Stop 'correcting' people adding this very well sourced addition. 86.3.208.127 (talk) 20:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Does it meet the requirements of WP:NICKNAME and/or MOS:NICKNAME? If you think it does, provide multiple reliable, high quality sources which use it as a standard way of referring to her. If not, stop wasting everyone's time and go and watch the Norwegian version of the show - it's funnier. Blue Square Thing (talk) 22:01, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The requirements of WP:NICKNAME aren't even relevant as they are about the name of the page. Or perhaps you could quote to me the part of WP:NICKNAME which it doesn't meet? Perhaps you could also explain how her other nickname *does* meet MOS:NICKNAME because it is clearly NOT "frequently used by reliable sources". If you're keeping one and not the other, that just sounds like the problem is you're a hypocrite. --86.3.208.127 (talk) 22:12, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd tend to agree about the other nickname - I'm not convinced about the source at all, especially as I can't find it anywhere on any quick search on poker sites. But at least there's a source that's not twitter and I'm not being a child and adding something I saw on a TV show because it's kewl. Please - stop wasting our time. Blue Square Thing (talk) 22:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Y'all are so elitist it's ridiculous.--86.3.208.127 (talk) 22:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Elitist? Oh please. I watch Taskmaster. And the New Zealand, Norwegian, Danish, Finnish, Swedish, Spanish and American versions of the show when I can find them. Because they're (mostly) funny. I just don't take anything that any of the hosts or players say that seriously. Blue Square Thing (talk) 23:22, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I was wrong. It's not just mindless trivial bollocks, it's mindless trivial telly bollocks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:25, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Not all television is mindless, mate, your privilege is showing.--86.3.208.127 (talk) 22:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've got the privilege of turning stuff like that off. Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Blue Square Thing and Martinevans123 are bang on. This was a trivial one-off joke on one episode of a TV show. It won't even be mentioned on Taskmaster again, let alone anywhere else. A textbook example of non-notability and witless meme editing. Dave.Dunford (talk) 10:48, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This craze will fade within a month. We can't win when we have floods of newcomer edits like this. Even if we included it in the infobox and somewhere in the body, people would keep not reading the article and adding it to more and more sections. I've seen it happen many other times. This is a one-off joke, unless it starts turning up elsewhere (like if she suddenly starts introducing herself as Ol' Goosebump Arm on Only Connect).
 * FWIW I'm a huge Taskmaster fan (to the extent of creating Taskmaster Wiki). — Bilorv ( talk ) 11:15, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This is becoming even more of an annoying time sink than adding "Lord" to the Greg Davies article, and just as stupid. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:42, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Wow, didn't realise that was still happening. A few years old by now. It's not going to exceed the number of "Little"s added to Alex Horne though. — Bilorv ( talk ) 12:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2021
Add "Ol' Goosebump Arm" to "nicknames" - as of Taskmaster s12e09. NaryaNZ (talk) 08:45, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: see above Cannolis (talk) 09:42, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Despite the assertion at the top of this article, her surname is NOT double-barrelled,
, unless you consider absolutely every woman in the Anglophone world who was born Jane Smith and married a Mr. Jones and thereafter was called "Jane Smith Jones" to possess a double-barrelled surname. Victoria Coren Mitchell has no ancestors named "Coren Mitchell", and her descendants will not have the surname "Coren Mitchell" although she can pull a trick and give them a list of forenames the last of which is "Coren" and create the appearance of having a surname "Coren Mitchell". (I believe this is a common practice in Wales to create the appearance of double-barrelled surnames, or at least was once so told by a Mr. Gwyn whose middle-name, in common with the middle-names of all of his father's father's father's descendants who would inherit the surname "Gwyn", was "Rhys". Yet in alphabetical lists he was invariably put in the "R"s, not the "G"s, despite his tipping me off as to the real truth.) Victoria didn't change her name by any legal process other than getting married to a man whose last name is Mitchell (or, if she did, that's not stated in this article, and then if so amend the article and correct me). Her names don't derive from peerages. (I'm vague on that process, but have the impression that if a boy (or girl) child Alex (whose father Barry Cameron married Alex's mother Deborah Evans, Countess of Fiddlesticks) inherits the "Fiddlesticks" Earldom from Deborah Evans, he (or she) would typically be called "Alex Cameron-Evans, Earl" (or "Countess") "of Fiddlesticks" to acknowledge that the inherited peerage titles comes from an Evans, not a Cameron. But this case, whether I be vague about it or not, has nothing to do with Victora Coren Mitchell's name.)


 * Your "rule" would deem a good 10% or more of married women alive today, and 25% or more of U.S. married women's names carved on gravestones in the 20th century, to be possessors of double-barrelled surnames (despite the vast majority of them being neither Welsh nor aristocratic). Appending a husband's surname after a space was once as commonplace as today's practice of appending a husband's name after a hyphen. That's just NOT a double-barrelled surname, and in the overwhelming majority of lists which include women who are called "[Forename] [Maiden-Name] [Married-Name]", the list when alphabetized will place each such woman's name as if it were "[Married-Name] [comma] [Forename] [Maiden-Name]", NOT [Maiden-Name] [Married-Name] [comma] [Forename]. It's this overwhelmingly dominant system of alphabetization (especially in card-catalogs where authors of works are listed) of a married woman (when she adds a space and her husband's surname to her own) by her husband's surname, not her maiden-name, that really explodes this idea that such women have or had double-barrelled surnames. And this system of alphabetizing will become even more dominant as more and more computers have to make the determination based solely on the characters in the name, without recourse to any external facts pertaining to the name. No computer can make the judgement, if it is fed ONLY the character-string "Mary May Likeweed" (even if there IS data nailing down a husband whose surname is "Likeweed") whether "May" is a middle-name given to her by her parents or was her surname before marriage. It can't be done. The computer's only recourse, in the absence of factual knowledge exterior to the characters themselves and to the fact of her husband being Mr. Likeweed, is to output "Likeweed, Mary May", NOT "May Likeweed, Mary".


 * Perhaps 200 years from now (or maybe already) there will be a Unicode character for the space between two pieces of a double-barrelled surname as distinct from all other spaces in a full name, but it won't work because nobody's going to bother to use the different kinds of spaces when they type out something like "Ian Duncan Smith" to ensure that it alphabetizes as "Duncan Smith, Ian" and not "Smith, Ian Duncan". People are in general too sloppy to be bothered to bear such a distinction in mind as they type.


 * By the way, I don't AGREE with any rule that is asymmetrical in application, allowing a narcissistic wife to annex her trophy-husband's status to her own despite the fact that men don't do likewise (not merely in surnames but in titles, a woman who desires to be a Baroness having three options, one of which is matrimonially bagging a Baron, while a man desiring to become a Baron can't do it by marrying a Baroness and so if he had poor judgment in his choice of parents must actually achieve something in his life). I'm just saying that, as awful and illogical as the rule is, it HAS been the rule observed by a huge percentage of data-systems and by married Anglophone couples (in some cases probably mandated by laws) in the 20th and 21st centuries.2600:8804:8C40:401:A41F:4586:54EA:B15F (talk) 22:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson


 * Oh my!
 * Someone really does like the sound of their own voice. 2A02:C7C:4C22:6800:C4B4:789F:F762:BF6A (talk) 05:25, 27 December 2023 (UTC)