Talk:Victoria University (Australia)

Echuca campus
While much of what was in the article was uncorroberated, that doesn't mean it wasn't true. I'd feel better about it's deletion if someone was proposing even the most fleeting evidence to the contrary.

The 2002 study mentioned *did* exist, but it was never intended to be made public. The uni is indecisive at the highest level. Every year stats are published that show that VU gets a very low number of first preferences.

And as for removing facts like the uni producing the best TAFE students in the country two years in a row, I hope that was just sloppy editing.

The Echuca campus isn't just someone's opinion, it does exist. See http://www.vu.edu.au/Faculties/Arts/Undergraduate_Subjects/AXS2013/ for instance. If you've ever in Echuca, look out for a big VU logo. The St Albans campus started out in a shop too.

matturn 01:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

The Echuca campus of VU does exist. There are various mentions of it on the VU website, see: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=echuca+site%3Avu.edu.au

Look at this course: http://www.vu.edu.au/Faculties/Arts/Undergraduate_Subjects/AXS1014/. What campus does it very clearly say it's being taught at?

Look at the list of campuses here: http://w2.vu.edu.au/library/lending/intercampus_copies.htm.

VUSU operates at the Echuca campus: http://vusu.org.au/hm_c_01.htm.

Student Services will tell you how to get there with PT here: http://w2.vu.edu.au/ss/housing/suburb.html

matturn 06:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Title
Victoria University isn't "of Technology" anymore, but the article is still at this title. We can't move it to Victoria University, because there's a disambiguation page there. Any suggestions? Ambi 14:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Victoria University (Victoria). Lame, but consistent with University of Newcastle (NSW). - Randwicked 13:36, 17 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Hm. What would you think about moving it to Victoria University, Australia (same as University of New England, Australia?) We could then standardise the three of them in that format. Ambi


 * Yeah, that's much neater. There's no duplicate uni names in Oz so it'll work. - Randwicked 13:41, 17 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Done. Now, to make the article not suck... Ambi 13:51, 17 December 2005 (UTC)


 * That's beyond my scope. :( - Randwicked 13:56, 17 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I did have a more detailed article here, but being largely unsourced (and POV in places), most of it was removed. Perhaps a non-sucking article would revert some of that change... matturn 08:06, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Student numbers
I see the infobox has changed from 44000 undergraduates to 15000. That's a big change, and I'm guessing that the previous figure included non-degree and diploma students. The current figure is only university students, according to the same edit. Perhaps this distinction should be expanded a little in the text. Andrewa 19:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Update
Newport Campus is closing as of the end of 2006. Courses based there are being moved to Sunshine campus, along with some courses from Footscray Nicholson. If someone wants to add or verify this info, they're welcome to. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.87.64.140 (talk) 07:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

I found a reference to the uni planning to close the campus, and added it, though I think it's presently (2007) still open. matturn 11:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
The introduction is way too long, and the 'Making VU a New School of Thought' section reads like an advert. Wongm 15:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The problem with links with the following format:
 * The College of Arts is that they don't work. wcrosbie (talk), Melbourne, Australia 14:01, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The links have been updated. wcrosbie (talk), Melbourne, Australia 21:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Introduction should give a more coherent description of the University's organisation, rather than referring to 7 academic colleges, 6 research institutes, and 7 research centres. Arfisk (talk) 03:19, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Merge discussion

 * Propose that Student Village (Victoria University) be merged here. Itsmejudith (talk) 11:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

History
If anyone would like to read about the history of the institution, and the various campuses of it's antecedents, have a look in "View History" for 2010. At this time MCDVU appointed themselves executioner to a large quantity of material with references. They appear to be one of the legions of egocentric vandals that are making Wikipedia worse by the day. It is one thing to move material to a more focused article, but it is another just to delete it. 180.150.113.72 (talk) 03:04, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Re-rating of article
I've re-rated the article from 'B' to 'C' as the rating dates from exactly seven years ago and relates to a substantially different version of the article. Under the current criteria, the article falls short, especially in terms of diversity of references; I count eleven references now from four different sources, including press releases from the university itself, which make up most of the reference list. There is a fair amount of content, but as per the tagging at the top of the article, the key challenge is expanding the article with referenced and independent information. — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 13:28, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Revision of article and copy edit October 2016
I have removed again some of the lead summary that Aloneinthewild restored following my last edit. I don't see the point in packing the lead summary with detailed information that is repeated elsewhere in the article. (It also contravenes the style manual (" identify the topic with a neutral point of view, but without being too specific."). I can see that it makes sense to mention VU's multiple campuses and other facilities en passant, but I can't see any justification in listing them all in the lead paragraph when they are listed in detail elsewhere.

Equally, I don't see any justification in listing all the countries in which VU has partner institutions when they are listed in detail elsewhere. But then I realized they weren't listed in detail elsewhere - I had inadvertantly deleted them during the copy edit. I still don't think the list belongs in the lead paragraph though and so have put the detailed list further down in the body text

I'm quite content with the rankings box being restored since I've suddenly noticed it on the pages of more and more universities and hadn't before. I have, though, removed the heading that was attached since the ranking is in a right-aligned frame and the heading was left floating around on the left with no content beneath it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeekeeyMisha (talk • contribs) 23:04, 4 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, I can agree with your reasoning here. I was just suprised to see the lead shrink from multiple paragraphs to one. Looks ok now Aloneinthewild (talk) 19:04, 9 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'm glad you approve. I have corrected the typo I'd inserted - must have been editing without my specs again!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeekeeyMisha (talk • contribs) 20:30, 9 October 2016 (UTC)