Talk:Vienna Convention on Road Traffic

Prologue
The International Driving Permit section could use some cleaning up, and it is linking to another article. If you want that link, then I would think it shouldn't be a section here at all but its own seperate article. I don't know where you sourced it from either, since it looks copy and paste. Toofishes 22:30, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Contracting Parties
Contracting parties list is compiled basing on wrong document - the document is about participants of Geneva Convention, not Vienna's one. --Realaaa (talk) 05:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

British Guyana
Why is it listed together with Aden Colony? 202.189.98.140 (talk) 10:31, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Abiding by treaty as a non-state-party
No source given. I couldn't find any official source which stated Thailand is abiding to this convention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.122.29.72 (talk) 15:36, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thailand is a signatory. This is clearly stated in the source.  This is unfortunately only one of many errors in the map.  At a quick glance, every country which the map claims is “abiding [...] as a non-state party” is a full participant (though possibly with reservations), while at least two territories which are marked as participants (Svalbard and Jan Mayen) are not.  DES (talk) 11:15, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Vienna Convention and autonomous driving -
This is a purely hypothetical section. There are as yet in 2019 no countries where autonomous driving is legal. Some specific companies are able to get permits for specific cars to go on the road in specific very limited geographic areas. Even when that happens in the USA (and I dont think it will before 2030), it does not immediately become relevant to this article because USA is not a signatory to this convention. I suggest deletion of that section. Kotika98 (talk) 18:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


 * In fact regulation UNECE 79 states that "Systems whereby the driver remains in primary control of the vehicle but may be helped by the steering system being influenced by signals initiated on-board the vehicle are defined as "Advanced Driver Assistance Steering Systems". Such systems can   incorporate an "Automatically Commanded Steering Function", for example, using passive infrastructure features to assist the driver in keeping the  vehicle on an ideal path (Lane Guidance, Lane Keeping or Heading Control), to assist the driver in manœuvring the vehicle at low speed in confined spaces or to assist the driver in coming to rest at a predefined point (Bus Stop Guidance). Advanced Driver Assistance Steering Systems can also incorporate a "Corrective Steering Function" that, for example, warns the driver of any  deviation from the chosen lane (Lane Departure Warning), corrects the steering angle to prevent departure from the chosen lane (Lane Departure Avoidance) or corrects the steering angle of one or more wheels to improve the vehicle's dynamic behaviour or stability.


 * In the case of any Advanced Driver Assistance Steering System, the driver can, at all times, choose to override the assistance function by deliberate action, for example, to avoid an unforeseen object in the road.


 * It is anticipated that future technology will also allow steering to be influenced or controlled  by  sensors  and  signals  generated  either  on  or  off-board  the vehicle. This  has  led  to  several  concerns ...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.214.110 (talk) 00:03, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * While UNECE 79 is not Vienna convention, Vienna convention states that: «.Les systèmes embarqués ayant une incidence sur la conduite du véhicule sont réputés conformes au par(agraphe) 5 du présent article et au premier paragraphe de l’art(icle) 13 s’ils sont conformes aux prescriptions en  matière de construction, de montage et d’utilisation énoncées dans les instruments juridiques internationaux relatifs aux véhicules à roues et aux  équipements et pièces susceptibles d’être montés et/ou utilisés sur un véhicule à roues.
 * Les systèmes embarqués ayant une incidence sur la conduite d’un véhicule qui ne sont pas conformes aux prescriptions en matière de construction, de montage et d’utilisation susmentionnées sont réputés conformes au par(agraphe) 5 du présent article et au premier paragraphe de l’art(icle) 13 pour autant qu’ils puissent être neutralisés ou désactivés par le conducteur.» (Article 8 paragraph 5bis) making a rather clear reference to UNECE regulations.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.214.110 (talk) 00:23, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Broken link
The link under "Full Text" (immediately below the flags) to the full source on Wikisource is broken & their search tool doesn't find it instantly. I am using the mobile version of Wikipedia. Alanthehat (talk) 08:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Only one traffic direction
According to the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic, a country is only allowed to use one traffic direction, which was the reason that Okinawa (which was an American territory and used right-hand traffic after the end of World War II) switched (back) to left-hand traffic, which is used in Japan, in 1978, six years after being transferred back to Japan in 1972.

A problem here is that the U.K. and Ireland use left-hand traffic, while the whole Mainland Europe use right-hand traffic (since Sweden's switch to RHT on 3 September 1967). If the whole of Europe would become one super-nation "the United States of Europe" divided into states, just like the United States of America, the super-nation "U.S.E." would most likely have two different traffic conventions, right-hand traffic on Mainland Europe and left-hand traffic on the British Isles, as it is technically and economically impossible to reconstruct all roads on the British Isles to adapt them for right-hand traffic, although it seemed to be possible in Sweden until the Swedish switch to RHT in 1967, but I doubt if it would be possible in such a built-up nation as Britain/Ireland, with a large network of motorways built for left-hand traffic and with vehicles mostly with a driver's seat to the right in the driving-direction (and thus adapted for left-hand traffic); Sweden was probably not a such built-up nation before September 1967. 212.100.101.104 (talk) 21:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)