Talk:Vincible and invincible ignorance

lead section
The lead paragraph of this article is too abstract for general readers uneducated in the topic to understand what it is about. The rest of the article seems to flesh it out a little bit. If I understand correctly, the article is about whether ignorance of the law is or is not an excuse for committing a sin?

Bwrs (talk) 23:08, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * What a mess. The start of the article is nonsense
 * "Vincible ignorance is, in Catholic ethics, a moral or doctrinal matter that could have been removed"
 * What on earth does it mean to "remove" a "moral or doctinal matter"? And it only gets worse from there. By the way, templates go into article space, not talk space.  patsw (talk) 22:18, 17 July 2016 (UTC)