Talk:Vinteuil Sonata

Picture
Proust writes specifically he's dipping not a biscuit, but a madeleine (cake) into his tisane filled with tea. Thus the image should be replaced. (Since one can get these cake/cookies easily at most Starbuck's, I could take a photo myself, but I don't have a fancy teacup that would resemble a tisane.) - kosboot (talk) 01:11, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I searched on flickr the terms "madeleine" and "tea" and saw some images which may be suitable.--Thoughtfortheday (talk) 21:42, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I photographed a co-worker (who uses loose tea, i.e. tisane) dipping a madeleine. Hope to put the pic on Commons by the weekend and then people can see how they feel. - kosboot (talk) 17:07, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

For "piano and violin"
A section of this article claims that the naming of a violin sonata as "for piano and violin" was unusual whereas "for violin and piano" would be the normal. This is supported by a quote from the Bulletin Marcel Proust of 2002. This bulletin is obviously not a musicological product. It is true that today a violin sonata is usually described as "for violin and piano", but in and before Proust's time this was not at all the case. I don't know of a secondary source to prove my point, but what I just did is the following:


 * I called up the online catalogue of the Bibliothèque nationale de France (the French national library): http://catalogue.bnf.fr,
 * clicked on "recherche avancée" (for 'advanced search'), came to this page: http://catalogue.bnf.fr/recherche-avancee.do?pageRech=rav,
 * changed the first search term to "titre" (for 'title') and typed in the words "pour piano et violon". In the line "par nature de document" I chose "Musique notée" (to get a listing of all musical works they have that carry "for piano and violin" (in French) in their title,
 * clicked on "Lancer la recherche" to start the search,
 * and got 2,621 works/references.

Have a try. The author of the article in the Bulletin Marcel Proust of 2002 is quite obviously phenomenally wrong. – Aklein62 (talk) 17:42, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing this out!--Thoughtfortheday (talk) 18:47, 5 February 2019 (UTC)