Talk:Visions of Johanna

Lyrics
Is it possible to put the extra lyrics from perth 1966 on this wiki page? The expecting rain site has never worked for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.12.85 (talk) 19:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

"Royal Albert Hall" show
Is anyone sure that the official album was definitely erroneously titled "The Royal Albert Hall" show? Couldn't that be a jab at the bootleggers, who actually were erroneously titling the show?

I think everyone is sure it was titled that because of the famous bootleg and it is in quotation marks to signal the title is inaccurate as fact, but as myth it was believed by those unfamiliar with the work. The bootleggers knew. :-)

"It was recorded at the Manchester Free Trade Hall during Dylan's world tour in 1966, hence the quotation marks around the false attribution to the Royal Albert Hall."

https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Dylan-Live-1966-The-Royal-Albert-Hall-Concert/master/28288

131.111.184.102 (talk) 09:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Mercury sound
If I'm not mistaken, it's "thin, wild mercury sound" and not "wild, thin mercury sound". Confirm/deny?

famous lines?
"the ghost of electricity howls in the bones of her face."

that's not even the most famous line on the album. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.133.254.89 (talk) 07:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC).

Yeah, the most famous BonB line is "I forced my hands in my pockets and felt with my thumbs, and gallantly handed her my very last piece of gum." --(cross references "Don't wanna be a bum you better chew gum" from Subterranean)

Sad shape of this article
This article consists almost entirely of original research, which is a pity, given the enormity of this song as work of music and poetry. I'm going to delete all the unsourced and poorly-written speculation and try to find some info about this song in the next few days--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 17:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)



hey this is marcia a devoted bob dylan fan. this song being about drugs is idiotic. this is a story about what goes on while someone waits for johanna. the aura of bob dylan is that we will never know what he is talking about. he is a poet as well as a songwriter, musician, artist and a mystery.

The "australian" verse seems a little weird, is there any proof of this having been actually sung by Dylan ? The explanation about Johanna being Dylan's secretary is not supported by any kind of evidence either. Sounds like some guy made it up and posted it there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.103.40.50 (talk) 16:38, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Close reading
Came across the following (web link here, and on main page )
 * 'Visions of Infinity' by Jonny Thakkar, in The Owl Journal, Hilary Term '07.

You may disagree with it, but at least it provides a published baseline. Bob aka Linuxlad 07:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

The link I provided to this is now dead, though you can probably still get a pdf of the whole issue from the Owl Journal site. I've emailed the present editor to see if there is a better link still available. Bob aka Linuxlad (talk) 19:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I've actually read that essay before and thought it was an excellent analysis of a difficult song. I've considered citing that same piece in this article; the problem is The Owl is essentially a student literary magazine--probably doesn't qualify as a reliable our authoritative source.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 21:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The piece is already quoted in the main article (qv) :-). It's probably still available as long as you take the whole archived pdf. In the context quoted, not for a definitive reading but an informed traceable point of view, Thakkar's standing looks good enough - he is I think a post-grad student of several years experience, and an editor of the Owl mag from some years back. Certainly a notch up on the rambling home-spun rubbish that usually collects in WP's Dylan articles. Bob aka Linuxlad (talk) 09:33, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * With dozens of well-regarded books to draw on for the background and analysis of "Visions of Johanna", I don't think anyone has to dig down a couple layers to find reliable information. I realize the comments above are almost four years old, but recent activity indicates these possibilities are still being considered. Allreet (talk) 15:03, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

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Old Crow Medicine Show cover
Old Crow Medicine Show covered this song on their latest album, 50 Years of Blonde on Blonde. I have tried to add this information to the "covers" portion of this article but, despite several modifications, the edit has been reverted by another editor. I am at a loss to understand why OCMS's cover does not merit mention alongside those of Lee Renaldo and Kåre Virud.... PurpleChez (talk) 15:47, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * You need to take it to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs if you think you are going to get support. --Richhoncho (talk) 15:49, 26 August 2017 (UTC)