Talk:Vivian Grey

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Historians are generally unaminous in calling Vivian Grey a failure which nearly sank Disraeli's career. I've placed a dispute tag on the article and will be re-writing over the next few days. Mackensen (talk) 23:19, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Strike that, I should have read Blake a little more carefully. It caused offence within the Tory literary world, but was rather popular otherwise. I'll remove the dispute tag. Mackensen (talk) 14:10, 20 August 2005 (UTC)


 * That may be- but I think the hyperbole in the article could definitely stand to be toned down a bit. I've tagged it for neutrality and lack of references. Badgerpatrol 17:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I have added information to the description of Vivian Grey, to correct some facts and also to challenge the position that Vivian Grey "is" Benjamin Disraeli. User:Wendyeb —Preceding undated comment added 22:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC).

I cut the following:

"Vivian Grey includes the first use in print in English of the word "millionaire" (I.ix): "Were I the son of a Millionaire or a noble, I might have all". "

First of all, you can find it here in 1824:

https://books.google.com/books?id=ATlYAAAAcAAJ&pg=PR6&dq=A+ride+of+eight+hundred+miles+in+France++By+James+Paul+Cobbett&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iJTiVMSGGIvcoAT9kIHICg&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=A%20ride%20of%20eight%20hundred%20miles%20in%20France%20%20By%20James%20Paul%20Cobbett&f=false

Second, the OED is not properly cited, and even if it were, the earliest dated example in the OED is not necessarily the earliest use. VaneWimsey (talk) 01:10, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Earl of Beaconsfield
Is one of the characters in this work of fiction the Earl of Beaconsfield, a title that Disraeli later carried? J S Ayer (talk) 00:18, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Lord Beaconsfield, yes, I can't recall if it's ever indicated what grade of title he holds. I suspect it's somewhat coincidental, Disraeli lived nearby Beaconsfield later in life. Mackensen (talk) 00:27, 15 July 2022 (UTC)