Talk:Vivian Ho

Contested deletion
Added paragraph on subject's existence, occupation, and further notoriety. HectorMoffet (talk) 08:34, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I still tend to believe the article is notable. Estabilished Career as a journalist (with gobs of cites) + BART police arrest in 2011 + Oakland PD arrest in 2012 + People like National Lawyer's Guild talking about unlawful arrests. But I defer to better judges than I. HectorMoffet (talk) 07:40, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I am removing the notice above because I do find this journalist to be of both significant current and prior events in bay area history. Reid Sullivan (talk) 22:24, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Note that a "prod" ("Proposed deletion") notice can be removed by anyone at any time, unlike the speedy deletion notice. However, as a matter of WikiGaming, it might be wiser to let it cook off for three or four days while you add those "gobs of cites", because it's not unlikely someone will send the whole thing to "articles for deletion" and start voting on it as it is now otherwise.


 * Right now, the probable outcome to me looks like this would be merged into an article about the Occupy movement in the Bay Area. To avoid this, you need more well-sourced information to make this sound like a biography.  In other words, when was she hired by the Chronicle, when was she promoted to this position or that, why is she the one stuck in the middle of a bunch of protesters when it's time for them to get arrested, why doesn't she have a proper press pass from Oakland police even though she's a reporter for the major area newspaper, when was she born, where did she grow up, what awards has she received, does she have husband, children and so on, etc.  Because if you're not ready or able to cover the subject, what you're left with is one nice profile about a student newspaper editor plus a notable controversy about arrests of reporters trying to cover public protests. Wnt (talk) 15:06, 24 February 2012 (UTC)