Talk:Vladimir Horowitz discography

Recording dates
Is I-tunes a reliable source for recording dates? I am more inclined to trust this page. Also, should we make clear when a recording is a compilation album?THD3 (talk) 21:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

A further question is how we should approach the subject of recording dates. Most recordings are not made in a single day, but in several sessions. Even the live recordings (with rare exceptions) have sections that are patched in from rehearsals or other concerts. Presently, The Last Recording lists November 1, 1989, as the recording date. However, that CD was made at several sessions in October and November, 1989. I think it may be more productive to simply list the year of the recording, or range of years if it's a compilation (i.e., 1962-1973). It will also prevent the page from being bogged down in needless detail.THD3 (talk) 13:20, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I will make the appropriate changes.  Etincelles  (talk)  15:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Or maybe, month and year?THD3 (talk) 15:48, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that sounds better.  Etincelles  (talk)  07:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

CD cover
IIRC, under free use guidelines, we are allowed to post album covers. Any preferences?THD3 (talk) 15:51, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I would be prepared to upload the covers, but it may take a very long time to sort it all out.  Etincelles  (talk)  07:54, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Multiple reissues
Many of VH's recordings have been reissued multiple times on CD in differing compilations. This has the potential to make the list cumbersome, confusing, and repetitive. How should approach this?THD3 (talk) 16:13, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not really to sure, do you have any ideas?  Etincelles  (talk)  07:56, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thinking about it, with the sheer number of recordings VH made, the list will be cumbersome no matter how we list it. It may be best to create a list of works for each recording, like such:

Horowitz at the Met
 * Scarlatti: Six Sonatas
 * Chopin: Ballade in F Minor, Op. 52 / Waltz in A-flat Major, Op. 69, No. 1
 * Liszt: Ballade in B Minor
 * Rachmaninoff: Prelude in G Minor, Op. 23, No. 5

Btw, VH at the met was the first CD I ever bought. It was released on LP in 1982, but not on CD until 1985. It was the reason I bought a CD player, I still have that CD and it plays as well today as when I bought it.THD3 (talk) 15:14, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes a list of works would be very useful, good idea. I have added album covers to the boxset table, do you like it?  Etincelles  (talk)  20:03, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, I will add worklists. But I think for box sets, it will be more useful just list composers, especially on that 70CD monster box.THD3 (talk) 21:35, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I think it would be prudent not to list limited edition releases, such as the digi-pak issues that Sony put out in 2003. But I do think we should list items which have been further remastered, such as the Living Stereo Beethoven Sonatas.  What about Blu-Spec?  Those might be of interest to audiophiles.  But maybe Blu-Spec should have their own sectionTHD3 (talk) 13:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Here's a prime example of a recording that has been issued several times: the 1978 Golden Jubilee Concert. It was initially released on CD in 1987.  Around 1993, RCA decided to slap a new cover on it and it was reissued.  In 2000, it was given a thorough remastering (it needed it) and issued again as part of the High Performance series (so was Horowitz at the Met) with the Rachmaninoff Second Sonata from 1980 added.  The 1987 version is out of print.  Which one(s) should we list?


 * On another matter, I have The Boston Recital and will put a worklist together. It mostly comes from a pirate recording of VH's 1969 recital there and the sound is terrible.THD3 (talk) 17:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Date(s)/Year(s)
In the tables, there is a discrepancy between whether Date(s) or Year(s) should be used as the title to the column. Do you think that these should be displayed under one name?-- Pianoplonkers  ♫   (talk)  19:29, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The date column is used when the year and month are stated, the year when only the year is stated.  Etincelles  (talk)  19:53, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Since the videos are mostly from concerts and recorded on a single day, I have changed that column to date. THD3 (talk) 22:56, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Links to this page
Do you think that there should be a more obvious link to this page from the Vladimir Horowitz article?-- Pianoplonkers  ♫   (talk)  10:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I just took care of this back at the main Vladimir Horowitz article. The little section I added could be expanded however you see fit. D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 16:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Record label names
The labels VH recorded for changed names several times.

RCA Victor Red Seal dropped Victor from their name in 1968, then reinstated it in 1986. Columbia Masterworks became CBS Masterworks in 1980, then was bought by Sony and renamed Sony Classical in 1989 (Horowitz's Last Recording was part of Sony's inaugural issues). When we are listing the CDs, I feel we should list the label name as it was when the CD was issued.THD3 (talk) 18:55, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, sounds like a good idea.  Etincelles  (talk)  06:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

links
Unfortunately the links to the Horowitz site


 * 1) Index of Released & Unreleased Recordings – The Vladimir Horowitz Website
 * 2) Vladimir Horowitz discography – The Vladimir Horowitz Website

are currently inaccessible. I don't read swedish... What happened to this very good survey?

The link


 * 1) Vladimir Horowitz discography at Rolling Stone

is probably a fake. I can't find anything about Horowitz at this site!

Ldboer (talk) 12:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up. I have updated the link.THD3 (talk) 14:17, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Largely Incomplete Discography
I have a Horowitz record (vinyl) with Beethoven's "Pathetique" Sonata, three Debussy Preludes (Les Fees sont d'exquises danseuses, Bruyeres, General Lavine -- eccentric), two Chopin Etudes (Nos. 12 & 7), and Chopin Scherzo No. 1 in B Minor, with recordings from 1963 -- although no date is provided on the actual jacket. Library of Congress catalog no. R63-1558 and Columbia records catalog no. MS 6541 are provided however. Just look at Horowitz's Discogs page -- and even that is incomplete. this site may be of use as it lists a large amount of rare/old/out-of-print recordings. Just thought I'd notify the moderators of this page that the information here was largely incomplete. Sadly, the record I have can only be found on a Korean website as far as I know (by searching the catalog no., although the LoC no. would probably yield better results). It also mentions two previous releases (KS 6371/KL 5571 and MS 6411/ML 5811). Just thought that might add some insight.

Edit: found it on Library of Congress website. Maybe that will be a useful resource? Methinks it's a trusted resource. Edit2: ML 5941 is the monaural version, the original catalog no. I listed was MS 6541, that's the stereo version. Just thought I'd clarify. Sorry for all the edits! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.173.244.248 (talk) 13:15, 5 January 2013


 * I have that LP also. The recordings themselves are listed in the discography, but they have been cobbled together on various CDs.  Per the article: "The listing below only contains Compact Disc releases and does not contain 78rpm, LP, Cassette, or 8-track tape releases. The videography includes items which have been released on VHS, Laserdisc and DVD.".THD3 (talk) 14:50, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

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